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 Originally Posted By: The Pook
There is a place in Tasmania called Nowhere Else:
It's on Nowhere Else Rd, and near Lake Nowhere Else. Where else would it be?

Very good!! \:D
Did it survive the bad storm I saw on the news?
Or was it blown to somewhere?

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etymological fallacy. Thanks. I sensed there was such a thing, but wasn't aware of the term and its currency. I think I'll use it, hopefully without committing it. Dropping the term early on in a discussion of a word's etymology might flush out anyone who will concede no possibility of fallacy in his thinking. Guessing and play-rationalizing are more fun among humble folks.

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etymological fallacy. Thanks. I sensed there was such a thing, but wasn't aware of the term and its currency. I think I'll use it, hopefully without committing it. Dropping the term early on in a discussion of a word's etymology might flush out anyone who will concede no possibility of fallacy in his thinking. Guessing and play-rationalizing are more fun among humble folks.


I'm familiar with the etymological fallacy (though it is more often applied to modern misunderstandings of ancient words). However, I wasn't aware that 'anonym' actually had a usage yet. I thought it was just a made up word, in which case all I had to go on is the lexical meaning of its component parts, which I think was the definition someone gave, wasn't it? I wasn't making the etymological fallacy - that is to ignore the meaning that a word has come to have apart from or despite the history of its formation from other words. I just doubted that the word is used at all.

And just for the record, I was wrong about something once before - that was the time I thought I was wrong but it turned out I was right all along! \:D

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 Originally Posted By: The Pook
There is a place in Tasmania called Nowhere Else:
It's on Nowhere Else Rd, and near Lake Nowhere Else. Where else would it be?

Very good!! \:D
Did it survive the bad storm I saw on the news?
Or was it blown to somewhere?


No it's still Nowhere Else as far as I know. \:D

So, our little storm even made the news in Holland?

The South West of Tasmania had hurricane force winds, but fortunately no one lives there, it is largely an unpopulated wilderness. Some houses in Hobart and Launceston had roofs blown off, however, and there was a bit of tree damage here and there. The wind wasn't so bad where we are. It didn't trouble the big Copper Beech and Silver Birch trees in our front yard at all.

March was a weird month for weather here - we've had all sorts of hottest, coldest, wettest, driest, windiest, etc records recently.

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 Originally Posted By: The Pook

I'm familiar with the etymological fallacy (though it is more often applied to modern misunderstandings of ancient words). However, I wasn't aware that 'anonym' actually had a usage yet. I thought it was just a made up word, in which case all I had to go on is the lexical meaning of its component parts, which I think was the definition someone gave, wasn't it?


B&M OED gives an 1812 citation for the meaning '[a] person whose name is not given, who remains nameless.' The earliest citation for the synonym of pseudonym is 1865.

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I'm familiar with the etymological fallacy (though it is more often applied to modern misunderstandings of ancient words). However, I wasn't aware that 'anonym' actually had a usage yet. I thought it was just a made up word, in which case all I had to go on is the lexical meaning of its component parts, which I think was the definition someone gave, wasn't it?


B&M OED gives an 1812 citation for the meaning '[a] person whose name is not given, who remains nameless.' The earliest citation for the synonym of pseudonym is 1865.


Ah, so it's a person, not a name. It's more like the terms ghostwriter or proxy or absentee than the term pseudonym - in that it describes the state of a person, not the name they take (or don't take).

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 Originally Posted By: Faldage
 Originally Posted By: The Pook

I'm familiar with the etymological fallacy (though it is more often applied to modern misunderstandings of ancient words). However, I wasn't aware that 'anonym' actually had a usage yet. I thought it was just a made up word, in which case all I had to go on is the lexical meaning of its component parts, which I think was the definition someone gave, wasn't it?


B&M OED gives an 1812 citation for the meaning '[a] person whose name is not given, who remains nameless.' The earliest citation for the synonym of pseudonym is 1865.


why do I bother, even?

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Good question.

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It's an ungrateful world and we are part of it. \:\/ /anon.

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A) tsuwm posted that thing two days ago. Lotsa posts under the bridge since then.

2) The Pook made a post that seemed as though he had forgotten tsuem's post, too. It needed answering.

Þ) Whaddus I sposed to do? Remember tsuwm's post? I don't think so. Look it up in the OED (which tsuwm didn't even bother to mention that's where he got his)? Sounds good to me.

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