Wordsmith Talk |
About Us | What's New | Search | Site Map | Contact Us | |||
Register Log In Wordsmith.org Forums General Topics Weekly Themes Today's Word
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
from http://www.word-detective.com/100297.html:
Mud on the superhighway.
Dear Word Detective: I've searched the entire World Wide Web looking for the origin of the
phrase "Your name will be mud." I think it might have come from the name of the doctor who
treated John Wilkes Booth (Dr. Mudd, I presume). -- Jerry McFadyen, via the Internet.
Searched the whole web, eh? Well, by now I'm sure that you've come to the same conclusion
that I reached a while back, namely that if you're looking for solid, useful information on the
Internet, you're barking up the wrong medium. There are exceptions, to be sure, but in
general trying to do serious research on the web is akin to asking a housecat for help with
your homework. Someone needs to explain this to Al Gore.
Thank heavens for books, therefore, especially ones such as "Devious Derivations," written
by Hugh Rawson and published by Crown. Mr Rawson devotes an entire page in his book to
the theory you have evidently heard: that the phrase "Your name will be mud" is connected
somehow to the Dr. Samuel A. Mudd who treated President Abraham Lincoln's assassin,
John Wilkes Booth. Doctor Mudd may or may not have been in on the 1865 assassination
conspiracy with Booth, who had broken his leg escaping from the scene of his crime. In any
case, Mudd was convicted of conspiracy in the trial that followed, and his name, to the
general public, certainly became "mud" in the sense of the phrase -- despised and reviled.
But Doctor Mudd's name is certainly no more than an interesting coincidence, for it cannot
have been the source of the phrase. "Mud" had already been in use for more than 200 years,
since at least 1708, as a slang term for a fool. According to Christine Ammer, in her book
"Have A Nice Day -- No Problem!" (a very fine dictionary of cliches published by Plume),
"mud" was commonly applied in the 19th century British Parliament to any member who lost
an election or otherwise disgraced himself.
The Phrase Finder also validates this:
http://phrases.shu.ac.uk/meanings/424000.html
Entire Thread Subject Posted By Posted ![]()
Today's Word
wwh 02/13/02 02:49 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
WhitmanO'Neill 02/14/02 03:23 AM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
wwh 02/14/02 02:20 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
wwh 02/14/02 02:29 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
Faldage 02/14/02 03:07 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
wwh 02/14/02 04:21 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
Faldage 02/14/02 04:35 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
tsuwm 02/14/02 05:59 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
wwh 02/14/02 06:24 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
of troy 02/14/02 07:15 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
wwh 02/14/02 08:32 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
wwh 02/18/02 02:39 PM ![]()
Re: Today's Word
Keiva 02/18/02 04:47 PM ![]()
Re: Booth the Mummy
WhitmanO'Neill 02/18/02 11:09 PM ![]()
Re: Your name is mud, but not the Dr.'s
WhitmanO'Neill 02/18/02 11:32 PM ![]()
Re: bloviate
wwh 02/19/02 04:04 PM ![]()
Re: bloviate
tsuwm 02/19/02 06:53 PM ![]()
Re: bloviate
wwh 02/19/02 08:14 PM ![]()
Re: bloviate
tsuwm 02/19/02 08:29 PM ![]()
Re: bloviate
Keiva 02/19/02 08:34 PM ![]()
Re: bloviate
Sparteye 02/19/02 11:06 PM ![]()
Re: gategate
wwh 02/20/02 02:02 PM ![]()
Re: Bills Gate
maverick 02/20/02 02:13 PM ![]()
Re: Bills Gate
wwh 02/20/02 02:19 PM ![]()
Re: Bills Gate
maverick 02/20/02 02:26 PM ![]()
Re: Bills Gate
wwh 02/20/02 02:39 PM ![]()
Re: Bills Gate
Faldage 02/20/02 03:24 PM ![]()
Re: Gating and fencing
Keiva 02/20/02 05:01 PM ![]()
Re: pocket veto
wwh 02/21/02 02:42 PM ![]()
wwftd
AnnaStrophic 02/22/02 03:04 PM ![]()
Re: throttlebottom
wwh 02/22/02 03:27 PM ![]()
Re: throttlebottom
Faldage 02/22/02 04:09 PM ![]()
Re: throttlebottom
wwh 02/22/02 05:01 PM ![]()
Re: throttlebottom
Faldage 02/22/02 05:47 PM ![]()
Re: Bills Gate
Faldage 02/20/02 02:26 PM ![]()
Re: Throttlebottom
hev 02/24/02 09:25 PM ![]()
Re: proscenium
wwh 02/28/02 05:05 PM ![]()
Re:philomath
wwh 03/04/02 05:28 PM ![]()
Re:philomath
Bean 03/05/02 05:27 PM ![]()
Re:philomath
wwh 03/05/02 06:32 PM ![]()
Re:philomathic philosophers
Faldage 03/05/02 07:08 PM ![]()
Re:philomathic philosophers
wwh 03/05/02 08:15 PM ![]()
Re:wise vs. learned
Faldage 03/05/02 08:30 PM ![]()
Re:wise vs. learned
wwh 03/05/02 08:50 PM ![]()
Oh my!
consuelo 03/06/02 11:18 AM ![]()
Re: Oh my!
Keiva 03/06/02 12:24 PM ![]()
Re: Oh my!
wwh 03/06/02 02:19 PM ![]()
Re: Oh my!
Keiva 03/06/02 04:29 PM ![]()
Re: Oh my!
slithy toves 03/06/02 08:51 PM ![]()
iracund
boronia 03/08/02 01:56 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
wwh 03/08/02 02:52 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
boronia 03/08/02 02:54 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
wwh 03/08/02 03:15 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
boronia 03/08/02 03:21 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
wwh 03/08/02 03:47 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
boronia 03/08/02 04:02 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
wwh 03/08/02 04:08 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
boronia 03/08/02 04:22 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
wwh 03/08/02 04:46 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
of troy 03/08/02 05:06 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
boronia 03/08/02 05:37 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
wwh 03/08/02 09:27 PM ![]()
Re: iracund
wwh 03/09/02 05:56 PM ![]()
Re: ukase
wwh 03/11/02 02:58 PM ![]()
Re: troika
wwh 03/12/02 02:56 PM ![]()
Re: troika
wwh 03/13/02 03:53 PM ![]()
Re: glasnost
wwh 03/14/02 08:42 PM ![]()
Re: glasnost
slithy toves 03/15/02 03:19 AM ![]()
Re: Russian words
tsuwm 03/15/02 04:51 AM ![]()
Re: Russian words
Rapunzel 03/15/02 01:27 PM ![]()
Re: Russian words
wwh 03/15/02 02:02 PM ![]()
Re: Russian words
tsuwm 03/15/02 03:04 PM ![]()
Re: glasnost
wwh 03/15/02 04:20 PM ![]()
Re: glasnost
tsuwm 03/15/02 04:36 PM ![]()
Re: glasnost
wwh 03/15/02 05:12 PM ![]()
Re: those islands
tsuwm 03/15/02 05:56 PM ![]()
Re: those islands
Keiva 03/15/02 07:04 PM ![]()
Re: glasnost
consuelo 03/30/02 08:46 PM ![]()
Re: glasnost
Keiva 03/15/02 06:44 PM ![]()
Re: Quemoy & Matsu
Faldage 03/15/02 06:07 PM ![]()
Re: -und-is-guised
Keiva 03/08/02 10:47 PM ![]()
Re: OED help, please?
Keiva 03/08/02 11:07 PM ![]()
Re: OED help, please?
wwh 03/08/02 11:25 PM
Moderated by Jackie
Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Statistics Forums16Topics13,915Posts229,828Members9,197 Most Online3,341
Dec 9th, 2011
Newest Members Bill_L, achz, MAGNVSTALSMA, Burlyfish, Renegade98
9,197 Registered Users
Who's Online Now 0 members (), 301 guests, and 3 robots. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters(30 Days) A C Bowden 16Bill_L 1
Top Posters wwh 13,858Faldage 13,803Jackie 11,613wofahulicodoc 10,863tsuwm 10,542LukeJavan8 9,944Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210AnnaStrophic 6,511Wordwind 6,296of troy 5,400
Forum Rules · Mark All Read Contact Us · Forum Help · Wordsmith.org