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You might also look up a discussion held, at length, on the Board a few months ago relating to "begging the question". I'm sure that discussion wandered in and out of this one.
I'd have LIUed it for you, but the whole Board is so slow to load that I'm afraid that I'd die of old age before I could find it.
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
Entire Thread Subject Posted By Posted illocutionary Anonymous 09/21/01 09:27 PM Re: illocutionary of troy 09/21/01 10:25 PM Re: illocutionary Anonymous 09/21/01 10:52 PM Re: illocutionary Keiva 09/22/01 03:22 PM Re: todlers belMarduk 09/22/01 05:25 PM Re: toddlers wow 09/22/01 05:38 PM Toddlers all asleep TEd Remington 09/23/01 12:43 AM Re: illocutionary tsuwm 09/22/01 03:42 AM Re: illocutionary Capital Kiwi 09/22/01 05:02 AM Re: illocutionary Jackie 09/22/01 02:43 PM Re: illocutionary tsuwm 09/23/01 09:34 PM Re: illocutionary Jackie 09/23/01 11:11 PM Re: illocutionary inselpeter 09/24/01 01:06 AM
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