yes, yes, yes, i hate that i don't have a copy of what i've sent-- someone asked me, if they could quote me-- and i though-- what exactly did i write? i sent a PM since i didn't want some of what i said being public-- either because it's too personal (l have sent others i feel comfortable with, my real email address,) or because its not really appropriate for any of the threads.. (oh, a recipe say..)