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a trouble with irish is there is proper grammor and pronounciation, and the more common sort-
some quick rules-
bh \as in Soibhan-- is V- \she vawn to rhyme with dawn..)
gh is a H\Meagher is closer to MA her =and often anglosized to Maher --it is never meager
Dun Laoghaire-- is Dun Leaghery/leahery (Lay hery) (lere y is the worst anglo/american rendition.)
the vowels are all impossible diphthongs and change as frequently as english ones.. (see Rod's poem on what rhymes, and what doesn't)
so queen meb- name would be mav.. (or mavis, or maude=very anglosized)
a common irish ending for a name is the diminutive een
maura becomes maureen
dora (or dorethy) becomes doreen
nora becomes noreen..
and so on..maveen is not common, but not unknown.
in english, smithers-- a mess, or bits and peices.. becomes smithereens.. broken in to very small pieces..
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