In a traffic class for repeat violators -- the instructor repeated made the point that a stop sign meant a full stop, and not just sever slowdown..
they followed up by asking someone in the class to describe the difference between a "rolling stop" (stoptional) and full stop.

the student/violator replied-- "$50 and 3 points."

NYC does not permit "Right Turns On Red"--(after coming to a complete stop)-- but in my experience many drivers have forgot that unspoken phrase.. and think if they are turning rght.


my other obsession