bexter! laugh Good ta see ya, feller! [blowing kiss e] And yes, they are murderous, thieving things. I saw one take a baby songbird out of its nest a few years ago, the little one hanging limply from the claws as the parents fluttered frantically but uselessly. And I remember many years ago reading a story where a crow would fly into some house and steal shiny jewelry, thus getting one of the inhabitants in trouble till they found the stash. A British story, I think...hmm, it may have been a magpie. [shrug] But didn't Dickon of The Secret Garden have a crow as a pet?