I know the term has a different meaning depending on the context;
philosophy, sociology, science, art. Yes, we are both artist and
personally I do not claim a word that is so useless, because if ever it was clear it's a totally worn out word.

As for what came before what: I always like think of early mankind. Our twofooted stone-age ancestors.
Would the first circle drawn in the sand be the result of stone-age man wanting to copy the sun or the moon or would he have incidently have drawn a circle and to his astonishment regocnized a sun or a full moon form.
Would the animal paintings in the caves of Altamira and Lascaux origin in the consious idea of the hunter to draw that animal, or would, as a result of torchlights lighting the uneven walls of the caves, some hunters have discovered animal forms to follow with charcoal, ochres etc.?

I like to think the latter: the idea came with or after the creative act. Art and philosophy always went close together and
influenced eachother both ways.

Last edited by BranShea; 09/30/08 11:06 AM.