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Ah! Dear Annie, it's not the same thing , it isn't the same. For the passive form english needs an extra word!
To give - to be given , or give - was given. I know that system.
Maybe, there is a chance that I am mistaken, but I would need a dutch exp. or fan. for that. It's a little confusing.Let me see. There is a saying: Hollow barrels - sound - the loudest. (not a real english construction , but I try to keep the sentences as close as possible to eachother.) Holle vaten - klinken - het hardst.
Here klinken is used in an active way. I think I was wrong. The two klinkens are both active. They just have a different meaning.
It's the listener that is passive, but something/one always produces the sound. And the sound - klinken is an immaterial thing, while the toasting is material as long as the glasses hold.
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