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#212700 - 10/03/13 10:24 AM Fossil words
EHS Offline

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Re "caboodle"

I suspect there may be an etymological connection with the German "beutel" meaning bag and commonly used in connection with money -- e.g. Geldbeutel (wallet, money bag).


#212704 - 10/03/13 12:47 PM Re: Fossil words [Re: EHS]
deelightfull Offline

Registered: 10/03/13
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re "caboodle" the second sentence given, "'Theresa cruised through the office once a month with a caboodle full of scissors, smocks, and hair color.' Lisa Baron; Life of the Party; Citadel Press; 2011." Caboodle refers, I believe to a brand name of box, similar to a tackle box marketed to girls & women for, among other things, hair stuff. I know they were particularly popular when I was a teenager in the early 90s. I do not know if they are still made and marketed under that brand name. (I still have my 20+ year old caboodle, it currently stores my needle work supplies.) I don't know if/how having a word become a brand name changes definitions at all. Does it add a brand name?

#212709 - 10/03/13 08:48 PM ...many online references for word origins [Re: deelightfull]
wofahulicodoc Offline
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I suspect it's a lot older than that. See this entry in The Phrase Finder for a derivation that may (or may not) be more authoritative. They take it back at least as far as the mid-1800s.

#212727 - 10/05/13 05:14 AM Re: ...many online references for word origins [Re: wofahulicodoc]
Faldage Offline
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I'm sure that Caboodle as a brand name derived from the common term. My question would be whether that speaks against using it as an example of the common noun in a citation.

#212815 - 10/12/13 10:16 AM Re: Fossil words [Re: EHS]
Mary Holbrow Offline

Registered: 10/12/13
Posts: 1
Re: fustilugs -- I think "lugs" is more likely to refer to the O.E. term for "ears" -- not an uncommon usage -- rather than something to do with carrying weight. Fustilugs would be somebody with mouldy ears.

#216951 - 06/07/14 03:20 AM Re: Fossil words [Re: EHS]
Bazr Offline

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 287
Loc: Victoria, Australia
The whole kit and caboodle


A collection of things.


The words kit and caboodle have rather similar meanings.

A kit - is a set of objects, as in a toolkit, or what a soldier would put in his kit-bag.

A caboodle (or boodle) - is an archaic term meaning group or collection, usually of people.

There are several phrases similar to the whole kit and caboodle, which is first recorded in that form in 1884. Most of them are of US origin and all the early citations are American. Caboodle was never in common use outside the USA and now has died out everywhere, apart from its use in this phrase.

The whole kit - the whole of a soldier's necessities, the contents of his knapsack. From Grose’s Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue, 1785.

Edited by Bazr (06/07/14 03:24 AM)
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