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I'm sure he said the Latin equivalent of "The hell with it, let's go, assholes!" Rubicon, Euphrates. There's a qualitative difference?

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Dear Faldage: Plutarch was writing in Greek, was he not?
So "Anerriphtho kubos" was not what Caesar himself said,
but was Plurarch's translation of "Alea jacta est". Is that not so?


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I dunno, Dr Bill. According to http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar Plutarch says Julie said it in Greek, not Latin. Course Plutarch wasn't there and Suetonius wasn't either, not less'n they had time machines.

We should also remember that when Julie crossed the Rubicon he was violating Roman law.


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Dear Faldage: Do you think that on such a symbolic occaasion, when he was trying to motivate his followers, it would have been psychologically sound to use Greek? I think it highly unlikely.


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Eius! Noli legationem interficere! Nihil alium quam quem scripsit Plutarchus refero! Contra eum ambige!


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I'd always thought it refered to the gambling cube or some fascimile thereof for the reaons you and others have cited. Interesting allusion for me. I've always thought that the emphasis was part "fait accompli" the done deed. He's done his part, flung die by crossing the rubicon - but the die has not yet settled, that is, he didn't at the time not know the outcome of his roll, his gamble. (Never knew it came down to us from Plutarch.)

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You should get out more ... or read the Asterix books. The onliest place where you can guarantee absolute historical accuracy about what Julie did and said!

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Plutarch claims he attually® said Anerriphtho kubos.

I have consulted Plutarch myself, Faldage.

He returns the plug by suggesting a weaving of "crossing the Rubicon" and "the die is cast". Hence: "casting the Rubicon" - certainly a memorable image, worthy of a genuine "Faldage" ... wouldn't you say?


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consulted Plutarch myself

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Ouija board?

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