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#98010 03/13/03 07:21 AM
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>Certainly, this is yet another Raj hangover. How many (and I do so hope that there are many)on this board know about the Mahabharatha or the Panchatantra, or the Arabian nights?


More than you might think, I suspect.
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I've always understood dike to be an earthern mound which holds back water (always an issue growing up on the flood plain of the Red River, and therefore a common word), and dyke to be the disparaging slang word for "lesbian". Atomica lists dyke as an alternative to dike but I'd never seen the "earthen mound" version spelled that way before.


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I reckon it's us Brits at fault again here. According to OED either spelling can be applied to either meaning. MW says differently - it has been listening to Bean.

I think the usual UK spelling for both meanings would be with the 'Y'. Certainly that looks ryte to me.


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I think Bingley deftly hit the nail on the head with his Occam's razor when he said:

I would say that whoever drew up these guidelines has repeatedly missed out one little word: only. They should read Don't only show women as, don't only show men as, don't only show Amerindians as etc.

(I would insert "only" after the object but that's a whole nother topic )



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Yes! And if he were MY old Dutch, he might have hit that nail Delftly on the head...


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I, too, like Bingley's only point.

But now to open a can of worms:

A couple of summers ago I took a group of high school students, who'd failed senior English during the regular term, through a very abbreviated course in world lit.

The book. Oh, heaven, save us, the book! There were some fine examples of literature, but the short stories from other nations? Thin. Very. Infantile language. Too obvious moral points being made. Please do not misunderstand me here. The problem wasn't with the cultures represented, but with the literary choices offered. I asked several teachers in the county about many of the stories that had been included in the anthology, and each agreed that the choices had been poor. I wondered whether a great deal had been lost in translation. I suspect that the compilers of the anthology had played hit and miss with wanting to represent a wide range of cultures, but not holding up consistent literary standards for each chosen work.

Studying Oedipus was the high point of the summer--especially once the kids had a good understanding of the story and the irony in the dialogue. We followed up their papers and talks about the play with a terrific parody of it in which Jack Nicholson read the part of Oedipus...Edith Bunker may have played Jocasta...and Mr. Rogers played some role? NPR parody. I think it was called "The Six-Minute Oedipus" and was most likely one of Garrison Keillor's skits.

"A Doll's House" went fairly well...

But as we moved forward into contemporary literature from other cultures, that's where things fell apart and didn't offer challenging material. I must believe that much was lost in translation, which means, I suppose, that the translations were not artistically sensitive.

If I ever taught that course again, I'd chuck most of the book and supplement it with other material.




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The Six Minute Oedipus -- A Celebrity Classic:

http://prairiehome.org/performances/19961116/96_1116OEDIPUS.htm


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speaking of Prairie Home Companion, check your schedules this weekend for the re-broadcast of the 2001 Talent from Towns Under Two-Thousand broadcast. I was singing with a group called "Celestial Sirens". we didn't win(never compete against children-especially very talented children!), but we had a blast!



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Ah, thanks, Faldage! I didn't know there was a script available. We listened to a tape I had of the show--very comical to hear those voices. The kids in the class had already pegged Oedipus (in their way of thinking he was dense for missing the obvious) as a comic character, so they were well-primed for a parody.


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eta, I heard on the ads for the upcoming PHC that an early-music ensemble from Vermont would be one of the contestants, and I idly wondered if it might be y'all. I don't remember if I heard the program in 2001, but it doesn't matter because I can hear it again knowing that I know (sort of) one of the singers!


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