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A while back we had a thread about finding a term for those songs that get stuck in your head and you can't seem to get out. We did finally come up wiht a bonafide word for this condition, courtesy tsuwm I think. But I can't find the thread (Dr. Bill, can you ferret it out for us?). Here is a new article about the top songs responsible for this condition. The piece also cites a German term for this: earworm. I like earworm, and I'm going to keep using it for this..."Don't mention that song, you'll give me earworm!"  Like P franz did to me recently when he mentioned, "Condo, condo, condo, connnndooooo!" that's a parody of "Quando, quando, quando, quannnndoooo," folks  http://makeashorterlink.com/?X30B250A3
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I don't like the word "earworm". how's that translate auf Deutsche? ooh, a little bit better: Ohrwurma Francais: Ver d'oreilleI like that...
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And, oh yeah, I meant to add to stimulate discussion ...what songs trigger this ailment and stick in your head the most? Any of those mentioned in the article? And I think there's a difference between songs you like sticking in your head, and the ones you hate that you just can't seem to get rid of...the latter is real earworm, I believe.
So do we need a new word for songs you like sticking in your head? Does earworm point only to the negativity of an affliction, or does it cover it all?
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well, earworm sounds like "earwig" to me, and I just can't stand those nasty little bugs...
I'll cogitate a bit on positive/negative mnemonophones...
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Thanks, tsuwm...that's the thread and the word!...endomusia.
Here's the complete article...it's short, so I might as well post it for the non-clickers.
>No. 1 Song That Gets Stuck In Our Heads
Baha Men's "Who Let the Dogs Out?"
Chili's restaurant jingle about Baby Back Ribs
Other
When University of Cincinnati researchers tried to find out what song gets stuck in our heads the most, the non-answer they came up with was quite revealing: Other. As in, there were way too many titles for a single poll to tally.
Almost all of us suffer through this mental torture of having a song stuck on replay in our brains, repeating itself over and over and over until we want to just scream. If this happens to you frequently, we're very sorry to inform you that those University of Cincinnati researchers have determined you have slightly neurotic tendencies. Either that or you just enjoy music and listen to it often. (Personally, we're opting for the second choice.)
Study leader James Kellaris did emphasize that people who suffer this mental torture frequently aren't seriously neurotic--just prone to worrying and anxiety and may have neurotic habits like biting pencils or tapping fingernails. (Oh, that makes us feel better.)
Which songs get stuck? Kellaris explained to Reuters that when we get a song stuck in our heads, it's usually the first or last song we heard in a specific situation, such as the song playing on the clock radio alarm or the song on the car radio when we turned off the ignition. "Just about anything can get stuck in people's heads," Kellaris told Reuters. "We each have our personal demonic tunes that get stuck in our heads, I guess."
But stuck songs, which the Germans call "earworm," tend to have these features in common:
They are relatively simple.
They are repetitive.
They contain an element that surprises the listener, such as an interrupted pattern or something that violates expectations of what comes next.
The most common culprits are songs with lyrics.
They stay stuck in our heads for a few hours on average.
Women are more likely than men to be annoyed, frustrated, or irritated by "earworm," and this, more than any other aspect of this mental torture, puzzles the researchers the most.
So what do you do to erase the stuck song from your brain? Kellaris advises you not to worry about it. (If you take him up on his advice, just don't listen to Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry, Be Happy" or you're sure to just trade one stuck song for another.) Other tips include listening to different music or distracting yourself with another activity. You can also try singing the entire song--and not just the snippet that's stuck in your head--even if you can't quite remember all the lyrics. There's even a folklore cure: Chew on cinnamon sticks.
The research was presented at the Society for Consumer Psychology Winter Conference in New Orleans.
--Cathryn Conroy <
BY, I see on the other thread you came up with a translation for Ohrwurm as mindworm rather than earworm?
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Baha Men's "Who Let the Dogs Out?"
Chili's restaurant jingle about Baby Back Ribs
I have a vague idea what the former sounds like, but just a very vague idea. It doesn't even include a tune or anything passing for one. The latter is totally outside my experience. I suppose this qualifies as blissful ignorance.
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The research was presented at the Society for Consumer Psychology...
Considering the first two (you) listed as the *top, that society could be justifying it's own research by paying for the repetition that produces those results.
I wonder if there is a Society for Psycological Investment and Risk Reduction that sets the odds in its own casino..?
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Well, Faldage, "Baby Back Ribs" is an ad jingle that would be foreign to the televisonally-challenged. But, if you saw the movie, Austin Powers, Fat Bastard sings a parody of this jingle when he wants to eat the baby.
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if you saw the movie, Austin Powers
Would that be AP2? I saw AP1 one more time than I should have, but the lesson took.
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I don't like the word "earworm".
Aurivermiphobia???
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Faldo, had to AP1, because I haven't seen AP2.
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Aurivermiphobia???augh! I have a phobia? 
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AP1/AP2
Fortunately, I was sufficiently unimpressed by the movie to remember any jingles. And it's corporate-media-free, not televisonally-challenged. The latter makes it sound as though it were some disability.
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Ah, yes... corporate-media-free...lessee...Microsoft, AOL, Apple...
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WO'N honey, I suspect you saw a trailer for AP2 - because the character Fat Bastard wasn't introduced till the second movie.
And I hadn't "got" that jingle from that movie - but if I saw it again, I would - because those ads are now playing on a station I watch occasionally, so I've finally seen them. Sigh. - However, in their defence I must admit they are sung by people with beautiful voices!
I tend to get snippets of musicals stuck in my head, or particular lines from songs that seem to be appropriate to my current situation (whatever it happens to be)....Editorialising on my life, courtesy of some inner reaches of my brain, I suppose.
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Well, mebbe it was AP2, then...I caught the flick about year later on TV so I'm prolly confused...enjoyed it but I'm no AP aficionado. It's the same movie that Fat Bastard wound up in the sack with Heather Graham, though, if that helps...disgusting scene, really.
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disguting scene, really
Yes, Fat Bastard is an unfortunate character altogether. I'm very sorry he was introduced into an otherwise charmingly naughty concept. Sighh. What the Brits (and anyone else in the world?) might well call OTT. Over The Top
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I much prefer endomusia to aurivermiphobia. I've never heard anybody say they were frightened by the song stuck in their head.
And oof - earworm / ver d'oreille - NOT the description I'd choose. It sounds squishy and full of suckers that keep it glued there.
And NO I am not afraid or disgusted by worms. But usually, worms that inhabit bodies are not the nicest looking things. Not like your basic brown earthworm whooping it up in the earth loosening the dirt and helping roots thrive.
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Oh and about songs that get stuck in my head. They're usually have repetitive bits that click and restart at exactly the same place all the time.
I feel like a record with a scratch in it.
And I don't know about anybody else, but slow songs never get stuck in my head. Ave Maria would never but Everlasting love will.
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I feel like a record with a scratch in it. And I feel like a nut! You know, I never thought about it, but slow ones don't stick with me, either.
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my off-the-wall hypothesis: the songs that get stuck in your head have a frequency or tempo relationship to your own natural rhythms, so they synchronize with you.
it would be interesting to do a little research about the songs that are most likely to get stuck in your head, and see if they compare favorably as far as tempo or key, etc...
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Hmm, eta, you may be on to something. How about a poll? Who finds triple-time more compelling--DAH da da; or four-four beats--DAH da dah da? If we get a clear majority one way or the other, maybe that will give us a clue.
I was thinking that "natural rhythms" might be related to the heartbeat we hear in the womb, but. For me, that triple time beat is "IT", and I don't think hearts beat that way!
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well, I think we all have unique patterns of frequencies/harmonics and rhythms, so the songs that get stuck would be unique as well. that being said, there are undoubtedly certain similarities in people. especially people who find themselves drawn to certain people; there would be harmonically comfortable congruencies. e.g. when you meet a person for the first time, you might feel an immediate like or dislike; I think that is based(at least in part) upon our natural, individual harmonic series. so the songs that stick in your head would be based upon your harmonics. I for one, however, am drawn to songs in three, and six, and also odd numbered time signatures. many of the pieces I have written are in five, or seven, or nine. not quite sure what that says about me!
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see if they compare favorably as far as tempo or key, etc...
It'd be particularly interesting if a person who didn't have perfect pitch always got stuck with songs in the same key.
We need a heart doctor here, but as I remember it, Native American drum beats are supposed to mimic the heart beat and they are basically in three: buh BUMP (pause) buh BUMP (pause) buh BUMP (pause)
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For me, that triple time beat is "IT", and I don't think hearts beat that way!Jackie, I can stop looking for IT now... Faldage - Thanks for reminding me. That is something I learned 'very early' and have never once since heard accurately portrayed. (ps - 'Very Early' - Bill Evans (a Jazz Waltz)) (pps - I vote for any prime number) (ppps - Yes 'two' is prime, but it shares properties with 'one' that I won't get into... yet.)
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drawn to songs in three, and six, and also odd numbered time signatures
We're doing an Ives piece that has one measure in 3½/4 time and one in 4½/4 time. Beat that for odd.
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It's just a clearer (to some) way of writing 7/8 and 9/8... well, clearer towards the composer's intent, at least.
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I have observed my husband's heart beating on a number of occasions and his resting rhythm is definitely a 3/4 time dealy: Three ONE (two) Three ONE (two) Three ONE (two)... with the brackets indicating no noise on the two-beat, and the caps indicating the strong noise on the ONE-beat.
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...we get a clear majority one way or the other, maybe that will give us a clue.
Jackie - Your survey just got a bit more complicated. Bean has raised the bet to the "power of two".
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I thought harder about heart beats after I made that post, but decided not to change it, because I don't think that third (or second) beat is actually THERE. Both faldage's Indian* drums and Bean's description indicate a pause. So why do we (most of us) mentally fill it in? I wish somebody would give me an aswer. And, how many of you mentally put the "n" back in aswer, hmm? Why do we do that?
*My apologies to anyone whom this term offends. It does make much more sense to use it to mean natives of India. But I grew up calling Native Americans Indians, and since they call themselves that, I am going to take the easy road here. Thank you.
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I don't think that third (or second) beat is actually THERE.
Just because there's nothing happening during that beat doesn't mean it isn't there; it *is there in time.
I have no objections my own self to calling Native Americans Indians but in this case in particular, with an audience that has a large number of people who are going to assume sub-continental Indians I figured why be ambiguous? Especially when the subject is drum beats. The difference between the stereotypical Native American drum beat and the Indian Indian drum beat could hardly be greater.
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...because I don't think that third (or second) beat is actually THERE. I think you actually® owe some *residuals for that...
I don't actually® speak the word 'two' into my brains' ear, either, but.
So why do we (most of us) mentally fill it in? I wish somebody would give me an aswer.
This reminds me of the human eye/brains' ability to 'smoothe over the rough edges' of animation, yet still be able to *accept subliminal messages.
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I think you actually® owe some *residuals for that...To whom? Gertrude Stein or John Cage? 
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E - I had to come up with something for you, so first I googled "actually Gertrude Stein" and found... http://www.centerforbookculture.org/context/no5/stein.html... which was rather *enlightening, but said I should "go ask Alice", so I did at: http://www.pandorabots.com/pandora/talk?botid=f5d922d97e345aa1 ...and got this... m - What is actually? a - Searching, Searching... m - What is searching? a - I'll have to ask my botmaster for an answer. m - What is a botmaster? a - A Botmaster is the person who authors and maintains a chatterbot "personality". m - What is a personality? a - I need time to formulate the reply. m - What is formulate? a - I'll come back to that later. m - What is later? a - I would look into the web for that knowledge. ... well, back to the web. One more crack at google where I searched with "later John Cage" and amongst other things, got this... http://www.newalbion.com/artists/cagej/autobiog.html"When I asked Schoenberg to teach me, he said, "You probably can't afford my price." I said, "Don't mention it; I don't have any money." He said, "Will you devote your life to music?" This time I said "Yes." He said he would teach me free of charge. I gave up painting and concentrated on music. After two years it became clear to both of us that I had no feeling for harmony. For Schoenberg, harmony was not just coloristic: it was structural. It was the means one used to distinguish one part of a composition from another. Therefore he said I'd never be able to write music. "Why not?" "You'll come to a wall and won't be able to get through." "Then I'll spend my life knocking my head against that wall."
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well after that I still haven't read any Gertrude Stein and I think I'll skip that ALICE thing it just seems like it might get in the way of me understanding what John Cage was talking about though he wasn't really talking about anything which is what this is all about.
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slow songs never get stuck in my head
Well, thanks to my good buddy, Juan, I've got that paragon of presto music, A Whiter Shade of Pale stuck in my head. I mo have to call out the Marines here right quick.
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Here ya go Faldo: "I was feelin' kinda seasick,
The crowd called out for more..." 
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FWIW, the Procol Harum chord progressions are attributed to JS Bach (but I've never confirmed this).
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to take the Procul Harem / Bach connection one step further: Air on a G string
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According to this site: http://www.bachfaq.org/whiter.htmlit only rates a strikingly similar.
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Rather a long stretch, tsuwm. I can't hear much similarity. But I'll take your well-researched word for it.
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Ha! Beat me to it. I'm still trying to hear the striking....
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And speaking of Baroque Rock there is, of course Yes's "Roundabout" and almost all of Emerson, Lake & Palmer. Any others?
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How am I supposed to know what time it is? Does anybody really care? About time? Must be time to play my stereo.
You want fries with that?
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And speaking of Baroque Rock
Yet does anyone speak of Barock Roque? Phonemes, man, give me phonemes! 
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