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#96738 02/25/03 11:00 AM
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If you're claiming ice hockey because it was invented in Canada by furriners you can't have basketball. It was invented by a Canadian but he came to US to do it. If we give you basketball you don't get ice hockey. Take yer pick.


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Yay! I had misconverted the numbers on the size of my pockets. Oh my, now that phrase could open up all kinds of possibilities! The first being that you are somehow obsessed with your trousers...

Welcome aBoard, Zed--a particularly appropriate term for a "longtime crokinoler"! BOY am I glad to find people who've not only heard of it, but have played it. And yes, I remember the pain when you're not careful!


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so which came first?

I think this link not only answers the question but confirms the degree of tenuousness of the connection between the two games.

http://www.netball.org/history.htm


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Thanks for this thread, Jackie. i have never heard of either game, but tonight, coming home, i drove down a side street in Flushing, (Queens)and passed 'the New York International ping pong club', 'the four seasons Billard club', 'Click, the internation internet cafe'... and the 'Carom Cafe'..
until this thread, i wouldn't have thought twice about the Carom Cafe, and would have just thought it to be place or family name...

Queens (one of NY boroughs) is about 100 square miles, and is one of the most ethnically diverse places in the world.

Flushing, just one subway stop (less than a mile) away from Shea Stadium, is home to NY's new little asia-- not 'china town', but a hugh multi ethnic community from all over asia, chinese, japanese, korean, filipeno, and all of the indian subcontinent... Flushing is home to NY's only hindu temple (and it is beautiful!-- i went to a wedding there) and several buddist temples.

It is sometimes overwhelming, but it is nice that the world has come to my doorstep. NY's "outer boroughs" are sometimes seen as less desirable, and more provincial than manhattan, but queens is really cosmopolitan, (even if it is only the plebians of all the world.)


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Much as I'd like to claim both hockey and basketball, if hockey was first played in 1855 then it wasn't played in Canada. Confederation was in 1867. ON the other hand if the same soldiers were still on the team 12 years later then we get to claim them and their chilly game as Canadian. After all having Don Cherry announce "It's Hockey Night in British North America!" just doesn't have the same ring to it.


#96743 02/27/03 02:11 AM
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Welcome, Zed! what a treat to have another Canuck a-Board....

You know, I used to claim zippers for Canada - until I learned the person who invented 'em was actually of mixed heritage and a late-comer to Canada.

But I'm pretty sure we can take credit for snowmobiles, eh?!

Certainly for the Canadarm...!


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take credit for snowmobiles

That *was an ironic statement, right? Kind of like claiming responsibility for bombing innocent pub patrons?


#96745 03/02/03 05:03 PM
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ironic

I s'pose it's ironic if you hates 'em, and not if you doesn't....Note the clever use of "eh" after the statement, which could tip the scales either way.

In short: Some snowmobiles sure are worth taking credit for (the ones that are used for helpful things, such as transport in and between remote communities etc), and some ain't (such as the ones that people use to enter themselves as candidates for the Darwin award, by decapitating themselves on hydro and phone pole guy wires etc).

Once again, it's all about perspective...!


#96746 03/06/03 08:56 PM
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IS more likely carom billiards. Give em a call and ask.



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