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#96718 02/24/03 04:48 AM
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>Here in Indonesia it's known as kerambol. It's not as popular as it used to be, but still well known.

In the 60s, apparently, there was shop in Hamilton, where my Dad was living at the time, that sold carom boards imported from Indonesia. That was the last time Dad saw any for sale here.


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kerambol

AHD traces the word carom through carambole, the French name for the billiards stroke, to the Spanish (and maybe Portuguese) carambola. For noun definitions it lists only the billiards stroke and a generalized defintion of a collision followed by a rebound.


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Here's a picture of what my cousin's looked like; I was wrong: 8 sides.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~crokinol/gallery/ross4.jpg

I was also wrong about how you send your disks in: they are filliped. Here's a link explaining the differences between carom and crokinole (though it doesn't give the origin of carom), with drawings of the 2 boards:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~crokinol/primer.htm

A quote: Crokinole boards are not carom boards, but some Crokinole boards are Carrom® boards.
Not all carom boards are Carrom® boards, and not all Carrom® boards are carom boards either.
Not all combination game boards are carom/Carrom® boards, but all Carrom® carom boards are combination game boards.





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Interesting. The site you linked to mentions the "true" carom boards with pockets of 1-1.5 inches in diameter and "Westernised" ones with 4-5 inches. I just measured the pockets on my heirloom board, and they are around 2.5 inches. A compromise board, perhaps?


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crokinole (Pronounced CROAK-ih-nole) sounds like a Cockney's grave.


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Well, Alex, tell you what: you buy me one of those $700 boards, we'll play, and I'll let you croak me, how's that?

A compromise board, perhaps? Could be, could be. Possibly the maker of your board worked with what he had available? That reminds me of the bride who would cut a few inches off of every roast she was preparing. When her husband asked her why, she said because her mother always fixed them that way. Finally, mom was invited for dinner, saw her dau. do that, and asked why. Dau. replied, "Because you always did". Mom said, "That was only because I had a very small roasting pan!"
I did try to look up the history of carom, and kept getting directed to carom billiards sites.


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>A compromise board, perhaps? Could be, could be. Possibly the maker of your board worked with what he had available?

Actually, I'm rather chuffed that our board isn't one of those wussy Westernised ones with the gaping 4.5 inch jaws. At least our pockets make it more challenging than that.


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Hey Jackie -

I used to play crokinole at a friend's cottage in Huntsville - so frontier game makes sense to me....But I haven't seen or heard of it since.

Crokinole
Hockey
Lacrosse
Basketball

all Canajun, eh?!


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Hockey? I don't think so! It's too obviously related to games like shinty to be a Canuck "invention." Then there's the matter of which sort of hockey came first. The game you call "hockey" is called "ice hockey" here, when we talk about "hockey", we are referring to that which Nth Americans call field hockey. Sorry to be a bully about this.


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Isn't basketball just netball, but you're allowed to run with the ball?

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