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#96728 02/25/03 02:16 AM
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>Isn't basketball just netball, but you're allowed to run with the ball?

Not only that, but the basket is both shorter and wider than the net in netball.



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Sorry to be a bully about this.

Tsk! No you're not! Darling honey mine, don't be a bully and a liar, both!


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My use of the word "bully" was, of course, a hockey reference.


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Isn't basketball just netball, but you're allowed to run with the ball?

so which came first? My dictionary compares the latter to the former, suggesting to me two possibilities:

1. Basketball is more widely known in Canada (this being a Canuck Oxford I'm consulting), so netball is compared to the more familiar thing.

2. Basketball came first.

I haven't googled either game name. Do know basketball was new in the late 1800s, because its newness is featured in one of the Great Brain books which are based on the life of the author (John D. Fitzgerald). But I don't know when netball came about.


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A piece of advice from a longtime crokinoler. If you play, make sure your fingernail is touching the disk before you shoot or it can get painful. The game may be more common in the Maritimes since my forefathers (well actually my foremothers) came from Nova Scotia.


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It's too obviously related to games like shinty to be a Canuck "invention."

'Scuse me, hoser, but just because it's "related" to other games, doesn't make it a different game in its own right - and therefore invented by Canadians. The Scots had ice, didn't they? Did they use it to play ice hockey? Noooo.

Same with netball and basketball. They're different games. Anyone who plays either would tell you so.

Same with rounders and baseball or cricket and baseball. You can point to similarities between many games if you try hard enough.

Canucks invented what we call hockey, which some other parts of the world know as "ice hockey." Chew on that.

What IS a bone of contention, is WHICH Canucks invented it. Disputatious parties from the Maritimes and Ontario are still duking it out over that one.

And sjm, if you expect to be understood, speak some universal language, why doncha. "Bully" to a non-sporting type such as meself just means bully.


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> "Bully" to a non-sporting type such as meself just means bully.

Ah, but in a discussion all about hockey, and its allegedly intrinsic Canadian-ness, it was surely not unreasonable to expect a Canadian to know that the term is used in hockey.


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>cuse me, hoser, but just because it's "related" to other games, doesn't make it a different game in its own right - and therefore invented by Canadians. The Scots had ice, didn't they? Did they use it to play ice hockey? Noooo.


According to the CAHA, British soldiers in Kingston, Ontario, and Halifax, Nova Scotia, played the first games, about 1855. 1855. The idea for ice hockey probably came from the older game of field hockey.

So, the game was first played in Canada, but it was originally just (real) hockey on ice, and was not first played by Canadians, but by Britons in Canada.




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"Bully!"

--Teddy Roosevelt


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Yay! I had misconverted the numbers on the size of my pockets. The diameter is 40mm, which is the 1.5 inches mentioned on the website. So, mine is a proper carom board after all.


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