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#96099 - 02/18/03 05:28 PM Re: Stiffneckedness/Stubbornness  
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hehe.
I think most mainline American Protestant churches probably use the Revised Standard Version, and in the 50's and 60's(and still today) churches might use "the Good News" Bible. (a New Testament translation into more current language).



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#96100 - 02/18/03 06:26 PM Re: Stiffneckedness/Stubbornness  
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OK, I had my tongue in my cheek. There it is, see.

I'm an unashamed traditionalist anyway and I need no other excuse.


#96101 - 02/18/03 08:44 PM Re: Stiffneckedness/Stubbornness  
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"Plus a change, plus c'est la meme chose."

Hey, shouldn't the first e in meme have a roof over it?


#96102 - 02/19/03 12:56 AM Re: Stiffneckedness/Stubbornness  
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a roof over it?

Hwt? You don't care if the other one gets all wet in the rain?


#96103 - 02/19/03 02:54 AM Re: Stiffneckedness/Stubbornness  
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I had my tongue in my cheek.

ah, those dang cheeky tongues. get me every time...





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#96104 - 02/19/03 08:07 AM Re: Stiffneckedness/Stubbornness  
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Hey, shouldn't the first e in meme have a roof over it?

Yep. But my circum was too stiff to flex just then.



#96105 - 02/20/03 12:51 AM Re: Stiffneckedness/Stubbornness  
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My 2 cents' worth: I have never particularly associated stiffnecked with religious writing, just old-fashioned writing.


#96106 - 02/20/03 02:57 PM Re: Stiffneckedness/Stubbornness  
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Around New England we use stiffnecked fairly often. It is often connected with a superior attitude or snob-iness.
"Mrs Potter is very stiffnecked about her position in society."
Stubborn is used more in connection with someone who will not yield a point or perform an action.
"Five-year-olds can be very stubborn when asked to share toys."
"Even faced with proof, he was too stubborn to admit the point."
I do not consider them interchangeable, or use them interchangeably.


#211523 - 06/26/13 06:59 AM Re: Stiffneckedness/Stubbornness [Re: suededevil]  
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Hi Suededevil, I am aware that my response is ten years overdue but I happen to be a Mormon, and this morning as i was studying my scriptures, I came across the word as used in 1 Nephi 20: 4 in the footnotes. It was not the first time I was encountering it but my interest was piqued because verse 4 describes the House of Israel as having their necks made of iron sinew and their brows being brass, which is explained in the footnotes as stiffnecked. additionally, the verse uses the term obstinate and so this is the meaning of stiffnecked. It has an element of stubbornness and foolish pride, as well as being unteachable. This makes more sense when understood from the concept of the Jews having rejected their redeeemer....

#211535 - 06/28/13 02:34 AM Re: Stiffneckedness/Stubbornness [Re: Esmeralda]  
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LDS here.

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