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#95777 02/16/03 03:25 AM
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could anyone give some model sentences to give me more carified understanding and concept about these two words?


#95778 02/16/03 03:44 AM
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Precede means to go first, in time or place. My older brother preceded me into the world.
Courage and perseverance can enable us to transcend the obstacles that life puts in our path.


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Transcend would mean to rise above.


#95780 02/17/03 09:21 AM
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Faldo, you never cease to amaze me!

- Pfranz

#95781 02/17/03 01:49 PM
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Dear Faldage: Good thing you don't run an airline. Your transatlantic flights would be
a big disappointment.


#95782 02/17/03 01:58 PM
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What?

From AHD4:


transcend

3. To exist above and independent of (material experience or the universe):


It's from Latin trans- + scandere, to climb.

Whadda yer transatlantic flights do, Dr Bill, take the surface route?


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Looks as though AHD didn't know what "trans" meant. My airline would get across the ocean,
yours apparently would not.


#95784 02/17/03 03:18 PM
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As was once commented concerning Virgin Airline:
"Why would you name an airline for someone known for not going 'all the way'?"


#95785 02/17/03 03:24 PM
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My airline would get across the ocean

Oh, we make it across all right. We just don't get wet doing it.


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Dear Faldage: Then you do know what "trans-" means. Going up is not enough, one must
also go across, past the obstacle.


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one must also go across, past the obstacle.

And one goes above it to do so. The important element in transcending is the getting above. Trans can also mean through. Over can have the meaning of crossing above. Get over it.


#95788 02/17/03 03:51 PM
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Using wow's context you guys' seem to be talking about either teasing or frustration, I'm not sure...


#95789 02/18/03 04:35 AM
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The preceding posts by wwh and Faldage could be said to transcend good manners. Oh, behave!


#95790 02/18/03 06:27 AM
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I am now so confused as u guys have even more complicated ellaboration


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I am now so confused as u guys have even more complicated ellaboration

They are joking with each other and that is confusing you. Ignore them.

These ideas from the first replies are what you need to think about.

Precede means to go first, in time or place. "My older brother preceded me into the world."

"Courage and perseverance can enable us to transcend the obstacles that life puts in our path."


Transcend in this sense, does mean to rise above. I would say that it is nearly always used figuratively like this. It is not usual to say something like: “The younger climber transcended the older one on the mountainside”, or: “The bigger aircraft transcended the smaller during their flight.”

By the way - do not rely on the spell checker on this board! It is misleading.



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They are joking with each other and that is confusing you. Ignore them.

A lotta help you are...

...do not rely on the spell checker on this board! It is misleading.

You can lead a horse to water but...


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Just trying to be straightforward so as not to promote further confusion.


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That explains my sarcasm, I guess. I'll get over it.

I just *hate to see our Enigma get a bad rap. (pardon my spelling)


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Ænigma is delightfully whimsical but it is also a trap set for the feet of the unwary.

Determined to ignore all sarcasm, irony and circumlocution. Strange that Ænigma should be quite happy with 'circumlocution', but feel that 'unwary' should be spelt 'unwelcome'.


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Sometimes the word "transcendental" can be mystifying (sort of a pun).
transcendentalism
n.
5< 18th-c. Ger transcendentalismus: see prec. & 3ISM6
1 any of various philosophies that propose to discover the nature of reality by investigating the process of thought rather than the objects of sense experience: the philosophies of Kant, Hegel, and Fichte are examples of transcendentalism
>2 by extension, the philosophical ideas of Emerson and some other 19th-cent. New Englanders, based on a search for reality through spiritual intuition
3 popularly, any obscure, visionary, or idealistic thought
tran#scen[den4tal[ist
n., adj.



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So-called for its belief in "rising above" the material.


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