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While I highly approve of Faldage's bringing back Jackie's post, I deplore the suggestion
that an apology is required for having overlooked something a year old.
And it appears that few of you noticed my post about "vraic". Boohoohoo!
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Jackie brought her own thread back, so I felt she might be making a point. Ironic innit.
I did read the 'vraic' posts, but the reference to wrack and vraic being connected was kind of an aside ( jumpers were the main issue as I recall ) so didn't stick. Rather a coincidence there though.
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Mercy me, I have run my mouth so much that you newer people could hardly help bringing up some of the same things, Honey. I don't mind a bit. I just remembered looking it up and being so shocked that...(I can hardly believe it now) rack and ruin is actually correct.
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rack and ruin is actually correct.
What!? Do I gots to go back and reread that whole thread? How did we come to this little bit of linguistic revisionism?
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From my post of 2001 (I added the bolding): "The second wrack refers to wreckage cast ashore, but it is also a verb meaning “to cause the ruin of, wreck.” Thus a business can be wracked by stiff competition. Both of these wrack s have rack as an acceptable spelling variant, so a business can also be racked by competition, and the reader can never be sure if the business is in a state of metaphorical torment or if it is ruined—and in truth it may be both"
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Faldage,
Jackie simply meant that the variant, rack and ruin, is also correct.
But I'd side against the variant simply because wrack and ruin makes me think of a ship wreck.That w carries a lot of weight.
And, yes, Jackie, I did read your post above, but I wanted to re-emphasize the point that 'rack and ruin' is an acceptable variant here in the U.S.
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Wait a minute; nerve-racking is "correct" but wrack and ruin is "correct".
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I think its just generally an acceptable variant. Comes down to personal preference or whim in the end. Logic lies in the mind of the thinker.
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In reply to:
but wrack and ruin is "correct".
Well, yes. Obviously.
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It was Jackie's rack and ruin is actually correct (italics mine) that led me to believe that she was suggesting that wrack and ruin was incorrect.
I maintain that something's being an acceptable variant does not make it "correct".
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