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#94997 - 02/08/03 11:25 PM Grail  
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Though I learned the word "grail" from books I read when I was quite young, I never thought
until just now to look it up, to learn its pedigree. I was surprised to find it derives ultimately
from "krater'
Grail
5ME graal < OFr < ML gradalis, flat dish, cup < ? VL *cratalis < L crater, mixing bowl: see CRATER6 Medieval Legend the cup or platter used by Jesus at the Last Supper, and by Joseph of Arimathea to collect drops of Jesus‘ blood at the Crucifixion: the quest for the Grail, which disappeared, is treated in Malory‘s Morte Darthur, Wagner‘s Parsifal, etc. Also Holy Grail



#94998 - 02/10/03 03:40 AM Re: Grail  
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the quest for the Grail, which disappeared, is treated in Malory‘s Morte Darthur, Wagner‘s Parsifal, etc.

One can't leave Monty Python out of this equation, can one?


#94999 - 02/10/03 10:20 AM Re: Grail  
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#95000 - 02/11/03 01:01 PM Re: Grail  
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The grail and Morte D'Arthur made me think of The Questing Beast Glatisant, so I did some questing and offer a link for those who may be interested.

http://www.employees.org/~pcorless/pendragon/glatisant.txt

This was the most informative of all the links I found.

I also came across references to the Lancelot-Vulgate and Post-Vulgate Quest for the Holy Grail legends - all new to me; looking in Amazon I was distressed by the prices for a translation of these works. I am amazed at not having come across them before. I have a good copy of Mallory but these predate him, seem to be better written than Geoffrey of Monmouth's even earlier work, and I lust after them!


#95001 - 02/11/03 01:57 PM Re: Grail  
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I was distressed

Does that mean you were also disheveled?


#95002 - 02/11/03 02:38 PM Re: Grail  
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I was quite tidy, but I was less than stinctly gusted. Ummm, not sure that's right.



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