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#87513 11/21/02 10:36 PM
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well, there's still a chance for connie to slip in the back door of the other still-obvious thread and vote, but with a lawsuit once again hanging over my head I've got to post this and go meet with my crack lawyer team, Cohn & McCarthy..

codos to ASp for garnering four actual votes plus identifying cilly as cryptology terminology. I think that's worth six(6) points all tolled [sic]. honorable mention to Fiberbabe for garnering three votes, Wordwind for three votes minus one of those execrable se'f votes, and teD for also decoding this riddled mass.

here's caradea's exegesis, which accompanied her suggestion:

cillies are predictable message "keys" used by lazy axis Enigma operators, who were supposed to choose three *random letters to determine the positions of the scramblers each morning. Bletchey cryptanalysts discovered that consecutive keys such as QWE or ASD were sometimes used, and it was just what they needed to crack Enigma. the name "cillies" supposedly comes from the initials of one of the operators' girlfriends: C.I.L. ~ it was evidently easy for him to remember. Bletchley was already using the Polish bombes, but they took too long ~ feeding a list of cillies into the bombes often reaped quicker results.

the definition as given is from The 1944 Bletchley Park Cryptographic Dictionary, which can be found online.

here then are the compleat results; as always the contributor is in brackets with votes following..

a) describes the facial expression of one who has a nasal hair tickling the side of his/her nose [RC]

b) the name for the mechanism that produces several graph lines at once as may be found in a lie detector, a seismograph, etc [consuelo]

c) an Italian version of chili, somewhat similar to the Tex-Mex variety but substituting cannellini for kidney beans and featuring traditional Italian herbs, including basil, oregano, and garlic [slithyt] dodyskin

d) WITHDRAWN, for lack of support (this is what is known in hogwash circles as an Alabama Bounce [apologies to Bill Safire and his 'Jersey Bounce'])

e) type of mathematical puzzle popular in the 19th century [Bingley] bonzai

f) the wrapping at the base of a double-reed that assures a snug fit onto the bocal of the bassoon or oboe [f'babe] sjm, Faldage, dxb

g) descriptive of tiny, eyelash-like protrusions on lower marine life forms [ASp] Bankroll, Bingley, rkay, RC

h) to use as the outside indicator of an Enigma message the letters appearing in the windows at the end of the enciphering of the previous message, thereby revealing the finished position for message and, in certain circumstances, facilitating the determination of its true setting and wheel-order (from the initials of the girlfriend of a German operator, who found them easy to remember) [The 1944 Bletchley Park Cryptographic Dictionary] ASp, teD

i) (slang) insanity induced by lead poisoning [musick]

j) a Coast Guard officer [Jazzo]

k) a battlefield formation used with great success by the Roman legions during Caesar's earliest campaigns [WO'N]

l) a meadow strewn with flints (These meadows are found on chalk downs and are used for grazing sheep. The soil is too shallow for crops and the grass insuffiently lush to fatten cattle adequately. Originally was two words, "cill lye". Cills being igneous rock intrusions and lye being the old word, or one of them, for a meadow.) [dxb]

m) an obsolete variant of the word silly [ron obvious] Jazzo

n) the decorative, frilled hem of a slip that is designed to peep from under the skirt of a latin dancer [dodyskin] musick

o) a hairlike tail or end [Wordwind] F'babe, Ww (se'f-vote), W'ON, slithy t,


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Wordwind for three votes minus one of those execrable se'f votes


Now wait a doggone minute,tsuwm. This has not been your week for math.

Wordwind (that's me) didn't receive three votes minus one for her (my) own. If you count (using cardinal numbers here and not ordinal ones, thank you very much, wwh) Fiberbabe, Slithy, W'On and WW, then that's four minus one, not three minus one, unless you're pulling this "last" business in some confounded new way you figured out while taking that evening walk yesterday.

Do we dare try multiplication here?

Congratulations, AnnaS, by the way. Impressive round!


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I read tsuwm's statement as meaning three votes, after one vote had been subtracted.


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Oh, geez. Here we go again.

Actually, sjm, this time I can see both sides. I'd say it was ambiguous. How's that for waffling?


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>I'd say it was ambiguous.

Ambiguity - the Devil's volleyball.


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>Wordwind for three votes minus one of those execrable se'f votes..

ambiguous? yes, and it certainly wouldn't read well had I wrote "Wordwind for three votes plus one of those execrable se'f votes.."


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Well, tsuwm kept it at three because he must've had a premonition of my present action: I'm withdrawing my vote for WW's def (nothin' personal) to protest our abandoning that great running-talley chart we kept so diligently ages ago...'cause the points are no longer relevant, akshually®. I mean, if we dunno who's gonna win the Winston Cup at the end of all this, what's the point? (except for it bein' fun, of course!) "Course it wouldn't surprise me if it was sjm who made that chart "go away"...he of the famous Aught...or was it One Point?


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W'On, I don't have any problem with your withdrawal. I'd like to withdraw my s'ef vote, but I'd like to give it to AnnaS. Seems s'ef votes should have a bit more fluidity than other kinds.


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...and if nominated I will not run! If elected I will not serve! unless we get our talley chart back...I weren't doing too awfully badly there, I believe...and ever since it's disappeared it seems I've been jinxed Hogwash-wise...could tsuwm be holding it in escrow for some future nefarious bartering purposes? I'm just askin'! I'm just sayin'!


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Hey !! will you kids just stop that bickerin' ???

I'm tryin' to do some work over here!


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>to protest our abandoning that great running-talley chart we kept so diligently ages ago...

I'm afraid that not all of the hogmasters were all that diligent, Juan (or, it's not my fault this time).


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And slip in I did. Give musick his point. Is that your first, K-L?


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I'm afraid that not all of the hogmasters were all that diligent, Juan (or, it's not my fault this time).

Okay...fair enough, tsuwm. I do recall that the chart seemed to slip away when other so-called (ahem!) Hogmasters were in charge. we know youse the only true Hogmaster® , tsuwm! So I'm withdrawing my withdrawal...you can have your vote and point back, Dub-Dub.




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So I'm withdrawing my withdrawal...you can have your vote and point back, Dub-Dub. ~ WhitmanO'Neill.

*Darn you Whitman, that was just about the most decent thing I've ever seen...

Hey Hogmaster! I'm withdrawing my withdrawal too.

Milum.


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Beware! withdrawal does not offer complete protection!


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