Wordsmith.org: the magic of words

Wordsmith Talk

About Us | What's New | Search | Site Map | Contact Us  

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#86853 11/13/02 05:21 PM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 833
M
old hand
OP Offline
old hand
M
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 833
Anyone know why food is sometimes known as "grub"?


#86854 11/13/02 05:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
W
wwh Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
Dear MG: It may be older, but during the '49 Gold Rush, a "grub stake" was money loaned
to a prospector, for a share in what might be discovered. The biggest part of the loan
was to cover food. Hence food = grub.


#86855 11/16/02 06:45 PM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 833
M
old hand
OP Offline
old hand
M
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 833
Thanks Bill. Still not sure how that could be the original usage, though....Why was a grub stake called a grub stake in the first place?

Kinda disappointed no one else had any further illumination for this subject.


#86856 11/16/02 07:24 PM
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
the use of grub in this sense predates "grub stake" by about 200 years and probably (reading between the lines here) stems from the use of the verb grub as transferred Of animals: To root, search for something in the earth, etc.

and the citation: 1659 Anc. Poems, Ball., etc. (Percy Soc.) 22 Let's joyne together; I'le pass my word this night Shall yield us grub, before the morning light.


#86857 11/18/02 03:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 833
M
old hand
OP Offline
old hand
M
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 833
Thanks for that addition, tsuwm....I had been wondering if it had anything to do with the fact that some peoples do, in fact, eat grubs. Got to wondering about the whole thing when I borrowed Michael Palin's Full Circle videos from the liberry and at one point, he was eating grubs in an Asian restaurant, and of course took the opportunity to pun a little - after a mouthful he said, "Well, it's not the best [whatever type of grub it was - can't remember name] I've ever tasted, but it's still good grub...."

I tried witchetty grub in Australia once. You can eat 'em raw or cooked and I had a "fillet" of the cooked (our guide cut it up into slices so we could all have a taste). Very nice, actually - kind of a nutty egg flavour. Definitely good grub.


#86858 11/18/02 03:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,819
A
Pooh-Bah
Offline
Pooh-Bah
A
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,819
Wow, and I thought nothing could turn my stomach at this point.


#86859 11/18/02 07:10 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 2,204
R
Pooh-Bah
Offline
Pooh-Bah
R
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 2,204
I have always understood the word, "grub", as a verb, to mean digging in the earth - possibly with bare hands, or with a bit of wood.
It is, in other words, hard work.

If this is what you have to do in order to either grow things, or to uncover food (truffles, buried nuts, etc.), then that would very easily become transfered as a noun to the food itself.


#86860 11/19/02 01:24 AM
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 11,613
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 11,613
Here's what Take Our Word for It has to say: And to grub is simply "to dig superficially". It is thought that it was grybban in Old English, coming from Old Teutonic grub- "to dig". Interestingly, the Old Teutonic root is also the source of the English noun grave.
There is a hand-held garden implement called a grubbing hoe. I agree with Rhuby, though; I think it's just a transference from where food comes from, to the food itself. There is an expression: rustle up some grub. This implies not a planned menu, but rather "digging" through the food supply and making something from whatever is available.



#86861 11/19/02 01:26 AM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,210
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,210
I grew up calling our sloppy, comfortable clothes "grubs". sometimes you just wanted to be grubby...





formerly known as etaoin...
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
>I agree with Rhuby, though; I think it's just a transference from where food comes from, to the food itself.

"the use of the verb grub as transferred Of animals: To root, search for something in the earth, etc."




Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Jackie 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Statistics
Forums16
Topics13,913
Posts229,350
Members9,182
Most Online3,341
Dec 9th, 2011
Newest Members
Ineffable, ddrinnan, TRIALNERRA, befuddledmind, KILL_YOUR_SUV
9,182 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 773 guests, and 1 robot.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters(30 Days)
Top Posters
wwh 13,858
Faldage 13,803
Jackie 11,613
wofahulicodoc 10,549
tsuwm 10,542
LukeJavan8 9,918
AnnaStrophic 6,511
Wordwind 6,296
of troy 5,400
Disclaimer: Wordsmith.org is not responsible for views expressed on this site. Use of this forum is at your own risk and liability - you agree to hold Wordsmith.org and its associates harmless as a condition of using it.

Home | Today's Word | Yesterday's Word | Subscribe | FAQ | Archives | Search | Feedback
Wordsmith Talk | Wordsmith Chat

© 1994-2024 Wordsmith

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5