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#86430 11/22/02 07:39 PM
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...errk... (maybe this sort of advertising art should be called mart? Just to add to the confusion!)


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#86432 11/26/02 01:15 AM
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Nice, Alex, but no real continuity, Art! Tell me?


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Hokusai groks life. Hokusai has painted one moment of extreme intensity; energy that permeates all existence; an archtypal moment of time. a pinpoint of the fundamental is-ness; existing both as macro and microscopic simultaneously. thought. love. be.



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Ain't it the truth.


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Ain't it the truth. ... but not as we know it!



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... but not as we know it!

Forgive me friends, I'm slow but eventually I figure out what you people are saying. Embedded within Rhuby's seemingly innocent, cast-off-remark above was a koan, a cry for help, an otherworldly wailing moan/scream with grotesque echoes that reverberated throughout time to the beginnings of mankind and of life itself. Rhuby was asking...

What is meant by the term "to know" ?

I'm glad you asked. It is important to know what we mean by "knowing" in order to understand the absolute meaning of Art.

1,000,000 YEARS B.C.

Before language life was pretty well straightforward. If a hungry tiger was chasing you you pretty well knew he wasn't chasing you for a conversation about the aesthetics of his stripes.
Or, if you pinched the tail of the Big Guy's favorite chick you pretty well knew that pretty soon you were gonna be knocked off your rock.
(Hence the term knocked off your rocker but I digress.)

Anyway, before language the information that we extracted and abstracted from the environment for selfish survival reasons was directly consensequated by the harsh reality of nature, and as far as that went, that was the truth.

100,000 YEARS B.C.

Language was a pretty good invention. Like television and the computer it held the potential to offer mankind much. But along with the ease of effective transfer of valuable information came the rise of self interest groups like shamans, bankers, and aluminum siding salesmen, who by the necessity of staying in business, lied loud and long to all who would listen.

But yet lying worked. If a leader couldn't rabble rouse his troops to effective battle that particular entity couldn't stand. So more and more an interacting culture was constructed based on all kind of lies. And one of these self perpetuating lies is what today we call Art.

(Please excuse me. They are calling me to Thanksgiving dinner, and I kid you not.)

To be continued...



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Please, Mr Milum, what does consensequated mean?


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Art is, as the man said, very much in the eye of the beholder. Trying to define exactly what art is, never mind what constitutes artistic merit, is so much drivel doomed to an eternity as dried saliva on the floor of civilisation. And someone will frame it and flog it to the Tate Modern for a six-figure sum.

One person's art is another person's load of bollocks, and I should know. I find an awful lot of what is passed off as art - and from all periods, I might add - to be just that. Bollocks.

The panel which judges the Turner prize has an eye for pure twaddle, that's for real. The idea of passing off a room with a light turning on and off in it as having artistic merit, never mind its being awarded anything but the booby prize, just tells me that people have too much money and too little taste.

BUT, and that was obviously a big but, I am very much aware that I have set tight boundaries around what I am prepared to accept as art and that my narrow view is not shared by everyone. Therefore, display what you like. Call it what you like. If YOU appreciate it as art, then I guess it's art - to you. Just don't expect me to agree with your analysis ...



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Please, Mr Milum, what does consensequated mean?

...precisely you want it to, no more and no less.


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