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#86293 11/08/02 09:40 PM
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I'm so out-of-the-loop--and missed teaching high school this past summer. So, I'm wondering what are the current catch phrases among the young these days?

If anyone has access to a teenager or young adult (or if you're a teenager or young adult), would you please let us know the state of your language?

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dude, that was so mine...



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Just tonight at dinner my son mentioned a friend not wanting to go to a concert that didn't have a mosh pit. I refused to admit that I don't know what a mosh pit is!

Also, we mamas and papas (can't trust that day...) seem to be 'rents; though that may be out by now.


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It's my understanding that a mosh pit is a brutal area of the dance floor where the object is to push, and mash, and toss bodies against each other, not necessarily with regard to the underlying beat of the music...but mebbe?

It would be interesting to understand how the word mosh came to be.

I don't think there has to be an actual pit in order to mosh. I imagine the pit is figurative.

But since I missed every single item on Sparteye's cool list, I may be completely wrong about my understanding of mosh pits.


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Mosh pits are way old, cholo.


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Faldage,

How "way"?


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*I heard about 'em three years ago, easy. And *I'm this old geezer with my only connections to youth through parents I work with. That's how "way".


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"Wayer" than that, F. My oldest is 25 and was talking bout mosh pits when he was a freshman in college. If I recall, he even managed to wrench his back in one (not seriously, thank God). Of course, Mom never heard about the incident until well after the ER visit.


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"Wayer" than that, F.

What I was saying. Three years ago a nold geezer like me heard it. It's like the first citation in writing or reading about it in Reader's Digest I am Joe's Mouth.


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check out http://vodkatea.com for staggeringly banal glossaries on youngspeak and how to stay down with the kidsyo sta, wesside, booyakasha SELECTA

word up me bruva , the massive is keeping it real ,you know it fool. firin stylings and a deep down beat, STREET

(an stuff an ting)

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Way wayer!
Maybe its now been recycled having gone out of use for some time, but Mosh Pit is a term I remember from my youth (even though I never engaged in such activities myself!) and was in use in the UK in the '80s, and probably the '70s too.


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As least as early as '79 here in Shytown!


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Yep, mosh pit's still in use in the UK, and though I've never been to one, I know quite a few who have - it's a place at the front of a relly loud rock concert where everybody pushes and shoves to get as far forwards as possible, in time to the music(well, sort of...)
Other 'in' words include: (As far as my experiences go, this is UK only)
boom! - cool/brilliant/amazing
heavy! - see above.
random - strange behaviour, changing the conversation to an irrelevant topic, anything unusual.
dodgy - applied to anything suspicious relating to people trying to cheat you or (usually) people/objects with apparently perverted intentions. (Euthemising furiously - e)
manky - horrble/disgusting/old/ugly (applied to inanimate objects.
crusty - see above.
boffin/boff - anyone who works hard at school/gets good grades/teacher's pet etc.
(you) div - stupid/idiot (usually a jokey, affectionate term)
bad/rude girls/boys - people who regulary get in trouble, say stuff like boom and heavy, are rude and spiteful to everyone. (group term, and they're proud of it!)
wicked - cool (less common)
cool - cool (still cool to say cool!)
well good/bad/ugly/nice - alternative to very or really.
shame! - hard to explain, it kinda means ha ha! Like, when someone does something wrong or are told off, spoken forcefully.
sad - often used to describe boffins
yeah man - agreement
like - this is, like, used all the time, like, but don't like, overdo it!
I hope you found this helpful, but beware: it's not cool for an adult to try to be cool... I wouldn't advise most, especially teachers, to use these words (with the exception of the more widely known ones) unless you are fully familliar with them and uset he rest of the lingo - or you may end up being labeled 'sad' or even, 'dodgy'!

EDIT: Oh yeah, and way is way out in the UK! (maybe except for surfers)
EDIT(2): Wayer was never in.

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A mosh pit is an area at the front of the crowd, a few rows back from the front row typically, where young males (mostly) engage in a form of dance that involves shoving and ramming, aka slam dancing. There is typically enough room for people to move around in a circle -- imagine a tornado of young men with shaved heads or mohawks -- and gain enough momentum to knock each other down. It's not for the faint at heart.

The crush of fans at a concert's front row isn't necessarily a mosh pit, although you can certainly get "mashed." I once saw the Minneapolis rock group The Replacements a club in Cincinnati called Bogart's. I was at the very front, and was pushed up against the wooden wall in front of me all night. By the end of the concert I felt like I had been in a sumo match with a hippo and lost. But the moshing going on behind me all night was far worse I'm sure.






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In ska lingo, rude boy and rude girl refers to a ska fan, usually dressed in a certain way.

Here's a decent explanation (which I have not read all the way through yet) http://www.rootsworld.com/rw/feature/rudeboy.html


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We don't have rude boys in Manchester, we have:
townies- sportswear wearing and chain pub frequenting mass marketites
scallies- the dodgier version
yonners- people from Oldham ( a town in Greater Manchester)
gees- gangsters or wannabees, usually drug runners
crusties- new age travellers that don't go anywhere, often environmentalists and political activists
hippies- a catch all for the alternative scene, which breaks down into goths, skaters, surfers, indie kids, giggers, skate punks, industrial, party heads, squatters, fetish, retro, and the ketamine kids.
junglists- part of the jungle scene
ravers- part of the dance scene, commercial
students ( the lowest of the low)
the massive- the community
punks- you know what punks are
and straights- everyone else


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the jungle scene
What's that? Somehow I find it hard to conjure up images of a jungle in the middle of Manchester... then again, I've never been...

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tis not really my deal so I'm not best qualified to explainhttp://www.junglist.com/html/whatisj.htm for a comprehensive overview
http://www.state51.co.uk/hottips/bhangle.html for some interesting and unexpected cultural fusion
http://www.geocities.com/streamingbits/junglist.html for a slang dictionary, getting back to the original point


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Well, out here in the city of angels, the hottest music on the hip-hop stations is the posthumous release of (yet another) Tupac Shakur double cd, 'Better Daze'. And the cut that is getting all the airplay is the electric version of 'Thug Mansion'. If you really want to know where youth culture is heading, you might want to listen to this (better yet the acoustic version of it) and see how you feel. 'Thug life' may be easy enough for AWADies to ignore, but if you have children in your house, they're gonna be enveloped in these images....

Don't get me wrong. The harsh yet bittersweet acoustic version of this rap is my favorite song right now. Just reminds us how many different roads we all travel, and that there's no way to turn back the clock. My mother was mortified at my worship of Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin, but at the time, I had no idea why.... It seems I've survived....



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