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#84719 10/25/02 03:00 PM
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Is "uncasual" a word? Neither my COD nor m-w.com lists it, but I have seen it being used, and it seems like it ought to be allowed. :-)

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welcome, sanjayrag!

why wouldn't you use "formal"?




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I think there ought to be a word for dress that is not casual, but not necessarily formal.
One can look out of place at a beach party in a business suit which is not actually formal.
But I don't have a good word for it.


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dress that is not casual, but not necessarily formal

Over this side of the Pond we just talk about "smart casual" wear, Bill. Suits me .

I think uncasual has a place as an ironic term, though.

Think about the difference between:

1. He had a formal manner.

2. He had a casual manner.

3. He had an uncasual manner.

To me it implies that the subject is trying to look casual (and relaxed) but is failing to carry it off. Stilted, perhaps.






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Well, it made a big difference in my Scrabble game last night. I just want to know if "uncasual" exists in any dictionary. Re usage I can see its application when you want a different shade of meaning for "formal".


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well, according to Official Scrabble® Player's Dictionary, 3rd Edition, you lose.

http://www.hasbroscrabble.com/pl/page.toolbox/dn/home.cfm

unsurprisingly, it's not in W3 (same publisher); I don't have OED access at the moment, but can check later..

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Then who in their *right mind would allow "informal" into the fold? [ducking-e]


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Are you suggesting 'incasual" might be a better alternative?

Dyoooood!


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I don't have OED access at the moment...

Show-off.


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no, i think he is just pointing out the unfair, illogical stance.. the allow formal and informal, and (formal and) casual, but not (casual and) uncasual..

formal and informal is not the same as casual..

I might formally adress someone as Dr Smith, in a public setting, but in private i would be informal, and call them Joan. but i might also be casual, and call someone Dr. Joan, (or as we do here, Dr bill!) uncasual is a bit harder, but i see it as valid word. (scrabble dictionary not withstanding!)


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