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#84531 - 04/14/03 11:44 PM Re: of fogs and storms
sjm Offline
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>Do our representatives of the Southern Hemisphere find this use of proceeding at all uncommon? What do others think of it?

I am sure that the usage would be very uncommon, were it used in a country where the first language is English, but it wasn't, so it probably isn't.

#84532 - 04/15/03 06:55 AM Re: of fogs and storms
Jackie Offline

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Okay-ay...I assume, sjm, that you mean first as in original? It took some doing, but I believe I have determined that the location of the earthquake in the link is Australia.

#84533 - 04/15/03 07:37 AM Re: of fogs and storms
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a country where the first language is English

the location of the earthquake in the link is Australia

As Jackie slides inexorably down the slippery slope into the unfathomable depths of the Chasm of Sar.

#84534 - 04/15/03 08:17 AM Re: of fogs and storms
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In response to Bingley's question, the use of proceeding didn't strike me as unusual when I read it, but probably I wouldn't have used the word in that way myself. Probably would have used "...in the hours following...", but for me it's fine as written.

#84535 - 04/15/03 08:26 AM an ipsi-equatorial response
wofahulicodoc Online   content
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...this use of proceeding...

I would have expected "ensuing" or "subsequent" instead.

Besides, even if it's meant to be the converse of preceding=coming before, the word is "precede," not "preceed". Is there another word "procede"? That would be the more precise analogue. If it exists.

#84536 - 04/15/03 09:02 AM Re: an ipsi-equatorial response
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proceed, proceeds

Perhaps proceeding has fallen out of disusue to a large degree because we have become used to the noun form (proceeds: The amount of money derived from a commercial or fundraising venture; the yield)and the shorter verb form (proceeds: moves farther along).

Yet preceding seems to be in wider use than precedes.

Here is the original verb form of proceed from Merrian-Webster's, from which the noun form proceeds evolved circa 1645. Notice in the etymology there is originally one "e", why and when was the second "e" added to proceed, when precede was left alone?:

Main Entry: pro·ceed
Pronunciation: prO-'sEd, pr&-
Function: intransitive verb
Etymology: Middle English proceden, from Middle French proceder, from Latin procedere, from pro- forward + cedere to go; more at PRO-
Date: 14th century
1 : to come forth from a source : ISSUE
2 a : to continue after a pause or interruption b : to go on in an orderly regulated way
3 a : to begin and carry on an action, process , or movement b : to be in the process of being accomplished
4 : to move along a course : ADVANCE
synonym see SPRING

#84537 - 04/15/03 06:45 PM Re: Slanted rain
Zed Offline

Registered: 08/27/02
Posts: 2154
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
Slanted rain is what I've always pictured when someone says "driving rain". Rain that is driven

#84538 - 04/15/03 06:55 PM Re: Slanted rain
Buffalo Shrdlu Offline
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I see what is meant.

formerly known as etaoin...

#84539 - 04/15/03 10:43 PM Re: of fogs and storms
Bingley Offline
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According to the writer's biography he comes from Lower Hutt, NZ.


#84540 - 04/15/03 10:47 PM Re: of fogs and storms
sjm Offline
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>According to the writer's biography he comes from Lower Hutt, NZ.

Well then, 'nuff said. We have one member not long removed from that part of the world - I'll let him defend the usage or not.

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