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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 4 of 4 1 2 3 4 Re: How do I describe this person? #83438 10/15/02 08:42 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass >An AYLEUR and proud of it. as you've said time and again. <grin> Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: How do I describe this person? #83439 10/15/02 08:49 PM Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 742 Akina S sjm old hand sjm old hand S Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 742 Akina Other than offering a personal, subjective, opinion, Precisely ... My response had to do with my understanding of the original question. The original question was,"What is the term for a person who "speaks beyond their scope or knowledge?" One who limits his or comments to expressing an opinion, carefully labelled as such, is never speakling beyond his or her scope or knowledge. I always know what my opinion is, and so am never guilty of speaking beyond my knowledge when offering my opinion, as long as I make it clear that such offerings are no more than my opinion. For me to do otherwise would be to make myself guilty of sciolism, and liable to the derision such rightly incurs. It goes without saying that the preceding is, of course, strictly IMHO. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: How do I describe this person? #83440 10/16/02 10:55 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky An AYLEUR and proud of it. A-HEM, sirrah: you can be Anything You Like Except Unanimous, but you cannot be an...be an...one of those things. There ain't no such. Aroo, I miss shanks. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: How do I describe this person? #83441 10/16/02 12:35 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,346 Sussex, England F FishonaBike veteran FishonaBike veteran F Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,346 Sussex, England An AYLEUR and proud of it *** Hallelujah! *** I'll tweedle with you on that one, bruv. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: How do I describe this person? #83442 10/16/02 01:10 PM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,146 Northamptonshire, England Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,146 Northamptonshire, England My response had to do with my understanding of the original question. The original question was,"What is the term for a person who "speaks beyond their scope or knowledge?" One who limits his or comments to expressing an opinion, carefully labelled as such, is never speakling beyond his or her scope or knowledge. I always know what my opinion is, and so am never guilty of speaking beyond my knowledge when offering my opinion, as long as I make it clear that such offerings are no more than my opinion. For me to do otherwise would be to make myself guilty of sciolism, and liable to the derision such rightly incurs. It goes without saying that the preceding is, of course, strictly IMHO. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But are you sure you knew what you were talking about, hmmmm? The idiot also known as Capfka ... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Trouble in Godzone #83443 10/16/02 02:26 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,346 Sussex, England F FishonaBike veteran FishonaBike veteran F Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,346 Sussex, England are you sure you knew what you were talking about, hmmmm? Hey, this must be a day without a "y" in it. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: How do I describe this person? #83444 10/16/02 07:58 PM Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 742 Akina S sjm old hand sjm old hand S Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 742 Akina >But are you sure you knew what you were talking about, hmmmm? I am sure that, in my subjective opinion, I was sure that I knew what my subjective opinion was. I could, of course, have been mistaken. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: How do I describe this sciolism? #83445 10/17/02 12:19 AM Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,296 Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... W Wordwind Carpal Tunnel Wordwind Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,296 Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... "Sciolism" comes from the Late Latin "sciolus," which means "smatterer" (or "one who speaks with spotty or superficial knowledge"). "Sciolus" comes from the diminutive of the Latin "scius," meaning "knowing," which itself comes from the verb "scire," meaning "to know." Of course, if you know something about Latin roots, you know that "scire" is the source of many other English words, including "science," "prescience" ("foreknowledge"), "nescience" ("lack of knowledge"), and "conscience." ...just thought I'd paste the definition of the day of one of those daily vocabulary emails I receive since it was a timely definition--and, besdies, sjm used the word. And sciolism does seem to fit the bill of what we're talking about here. Now, is the noun form, sciolus, still used today? I could look it up, but I'm going offline and to bed. I'll let somebody else answer the question... Beat regards, WordWeary Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: How do I describe this sciolism? #83446 10/17/02 12:36 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont here's a reference to "Sciolist" http://81.1911encyclopedia.org/S/SC/SCION.htm part way down the page... formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: How do I describe this sciolism? #83447 10/17/02 01:05 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass >is the noun form, sciolus, still used today? no, it's marked obsolete, with the latest citation from 1658. but as mentioned above, sciolist is a fine noun. 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