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I believe the expression goin' batty originated from the way people reacted when a bat became enmeshed in their hair. Better watch it there, Dub-Dub.


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according to Lipton's "An Exaltation of Larks", rabbits, ants, gulls and bats all come in... get ready for the ultramundane... colonies.


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Search says no prior use of "he's got bats in his belfry" to mean someone is nuts.


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How about a nocturne of bats ... seeing as they only fly at night. BTW bats are also good for air conditioning. The story goes that no-one could figure out why the Taj Mahal remained so cool in the summer heat. Then someone discovered a colony of bats [and their guano] in the roof.


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TEd,

As a microbiologist by training I though that your story might not be entirely correct. The rabies are caused by a virus and viruses can not multiply in faeces, they need a living organism to reproduce themselves. That’s why spreading of rabies usually require that the victim is bitten by a diseased animal (dog, fox, bat) so the saliva, which contains the virus is in direct contact with broken skin. I found a document titled “Managing Health Hazards Associated with Birds and Bats Excrements” by US Environmental Hygiene Agency

http://chppm-www.apgea.army.mil/imo/ddb/dmd/DMD/TG/TECHGUID/Tg142.pdf

They say there that an airborne rabies infection has been demonstrated only in one cave in Texas.
So either a friend of your friend has been unfortunate to breathe in a wrong place in Texas or he’s been scratched or bitten by a bat.



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Thanks, vika, for posting the address here about bats, birds, and rabies. This is something that has been on my mind for quite a while.

And it does appear that the friend of Ted's friend went into the wrong cave--but he was a bat expert so I suppose he thought he had enough knowledge to go where others with less expertise in the field would dare to tread. Tragic story there.

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a nocturne of bats

I love this one...nocturne! And welcome to the board, troubador!


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Dear Vika: I was an epidemiologist in MA Public Health Division of Infectious Diseases in
early 1950s when bat rabies was first discovered in US. At that time it was thought
that the few cases of human rabies in people who explored caves where vampire bats
were numerous might be caused by aerosols of rabies virus. That risk has indeed turned
out to be very small. I found one site that said only two cases :
"two human deaths probably due to nonbite aerosol transmission".
If it has been documented in one cave in Texas, it seems quite possible it could
occur in other similar caves. I'm glad it is so rare.


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I love this one...nocturne!

..and just after sundown when the colony takes flight there's a nocturnal emission.

I think "nocturne" works well for, say, fruit bats - but is a bit romantic and fluffy for vampire bats, especially at this time of year.

If the bats were reeling around the sky in a drunken fashion they could be a bevvy of bats.



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