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#82196 10/01/02 02:26 AM
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Excerpt from "Nice Guys Finish Seventh"

Why We Misquote:

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>W. C. Fields's best remembered saying is "Any man who hates dogs and children can't be all bad." Fields didn't say it. These words were said about Fields, by Leo Rosten, as he introduced the comedian at a 1939 Masquers banquet in Los Angeles. Rosten, then a young sociologist studying the movie industry, found himself seated on the dais. After the meal he was invited to say a few words about the guest of honor. Unable to think of anything else, Rosten blurted out, "The only thing I can say about Mr. W. C. Fields, whom I have admired since the day he advanced upon Baby LeRoy with an icepick, is this: Any man who hates babies and dogs can't be all bad." According to Rosten his quip brought down the house. He later called it "one of those happy 'ad libs' God sends you." Two weeks later Rosten's line was mentioned in Time Magazine. At the time few people had heard of Leo Rosten. As a result, it didn't take long for Rosten's words to get put in a better-known mouth: that of Fields himself. It's stayed there ever since.


* "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing" was the slogan of UCLA football coach Red Sanders, not Vince Lombardi.

* "The opera ain't over till the fat lady sings" was adapted from an older saying: "Church ain't out till the fat lady sings."

* "Elementary, my dear Watson," does not appear in any of Arthur Conan Doyle's books about Sherlock Holmes.

* Calvin Coolidge didn't say, "The business of America is business."

* Leo Durocher never said "Nice guys finish last." <

And, BTW, James Cagney never said, "You dirty rat!" and Cary Grant never said, "Judy, Judy, Judy!"

And, of course, as we all know, Humphrey Bogart never said, "Play it again, Sam."

And, as an extra added bonus, all these folks are dead...so I'm cool with the rule!



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It was Durocher's wife that said, "nice guys finish last."

What Durocher said was in response to someone asking him why he wasn't a nice guy. He said something like:

See those guys over there (The Brooklyn Dodgers, if memory serves)? They're nice guys. They're in seventh place (which wasn't last since there *were eight teams in the league (unless that was the same year that someone else suggested that the Dodger's *weren't in the league)).


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Immortality is not everybody's thing
Kurt Schwitters
(my translation)


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George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950, Irish-born British Dramatist

What the heck does this mean?

Either:
(a)GBS was born and brought up in Ireland, so that makes him simply "Irish".
Or:
(b) We're going back to his (I just read) Yorkshire roots, and he's "British", or perhaps even "English".

UK convention would generally be for nationality to be determined by place of birth rather than by blood, certainly nowadays. Ergo GBS was an Irish Dramatist (and Writer). Naturally he was perfectly entitled to draw attention to his English blood as he saw fit.

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from today's Daily Word:

Everything you've learned in school as `obvious' becomes less and less
obvious as you begin to study the universe. For example, there are no
solids in the universe. There's not even a suggestion of a solid. There are
no absolute continuums. There are no surfaces. There are no straight lines.
-R. Buckminster Fuller, engineer, designer, and architect (1895-1983)

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George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950, Irish-born British Dramatist

What the heck does this mean?


Dunno, shona...wondered the same myself...this one quote site has all these strange multi-faceted bio lines....I can't seem to find it again, though. If I do, I'll edit-in the url here.

"There was never yet philosopher
That could endure the toothache patiently."

--Wm Shakespeare (very dead)






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Yesterday my son found a little red 3" X 5" ruled sheet notebook that my mother (still extant) had given me some 20 odd years ago with the hope that the hand written sayings inside would lead to me to a better life. Being me and being real smart I had put the little notebook aside and forgot it.
Now I realize that if I had followed her sayings I might today be on MTV or at least be driving a silver Mercedes Benz.

I'm pretty sure mother got the red book idea from the Little Red Book of Saying that proved so successful for Chairman Mao Zedong (mother wasn't picky about stealing an idea) but many of the thoughts inside Mom's book have value even in the world of today. I offer them here in the hope that they will help you folk become rich, or failing that, at least become better people.

Way To Go by Dorothy Grider Washington

*** Don't wait for your ship to come in swim out and meet it.

*** Don't worry about losing your memory. Just forget about it.

*** Trust in God. But Lock your car.

*** Never laugh at anyones dreams.

*** When I count my blessings I count you twice.

*** Whatever the problem - Please give me two minutes for an alibi.

*** The wise do sooner what fools do later.

*** Goldfish don't like jello.

*** Living is like licking honey off a thorn.

*** Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get.

*** You can't have a good day in bad underwear.

*** If you can't say anything good about someone sit right here by me.

*** Smile big.

*** There is no elevator to success - you have to take the stairs.

*** Gods greatest gift - "your child".

*** Make haste slowly.

*** The eleventh commandment: Thy Shall Laugh.

*** Animals don't gripe.

*** Yes, a woman is the beginning of everything great.
- Abe Lincoln

*** Half the sky is held up by women.

*** You rest you rust.

*** You can't be mad when you sing.

*** Refrigerators hum in B-flat.

*** Lord, grant me patience - and I need it right now.

*** There is not a right way to do a wrong thing.

*** You have not because you ask not. - James Chap 4 - verse 2.

*** Some cause happiness where ever they go, others when ever they go.

(My Mother brought happiness wherever she went, she stills does, but please excuse me, now I must go and watch TV.) ___ ___

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Living is like licking honey off a thorn.

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Reading is like thinking with someone else's head instead of with one's own.
Arthur Schopenhauer


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Enough said.

Thanks for sharing your mom with us, milum!

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>>Living is like licking honey off a thorn.

Yeah, I'm down with that one too, Musick.

And an unattributed piece of advice I recently picked up:
"What would you do if you weren't afraid?"
(That one is fast on its way to becoming my next tattoo...)


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