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The majority of English people ( I suspect) have never even seen a gun in real life Jacks
I'd agree with that, dode. Strongly. When I was in RAF cadets (sorta) I did some shooting and got to know a bit about guns. Also shot air rifles as a kid, but, even though I live in the country (where there is an occasional working need for guns), I hardly ever see "real" guns. Same applies to when I lived in a fairly rough part of London (obviously nothing like Moss Side, but..), and whenever I go to London these days.
There was an armed soldier outside the Royal Scots Guards barracks yesterday (near Victoria, London). The presence of a gun in Town is striking even if in a military context.
It's quite a shock to the average Brit when in another country, walking past armed police and so on.
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at least the POLICE don't have guns.
Well, OK, not all of them. And not the average patrol officer. But. I have been led to believe that there are UK police who are arms qualified and are called upon to carry - and sometimes use - weapons in critical situations. Regular officers, I mean, not the UK equivalent of the Special Weapons and Tactics teams (SWAT teams.) Or have I been misinformed?
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yes there are armed response units in England. They are highly trained two man teams who have served at least seven years as regular unarmed bobbies and then undergo a year at least of specialist training. Every bullet has to be accounted for, indeed every time a gun is pointed at ANYONE has to be accounted for. Very different from every bobby on the beat 'packing heat'. I wouldn't like to live in a country where the police patrol the streets with loaded guns, well scary. At least the criminals only shoot at each other.
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Excuse me folks, does anybody know where Doc Bill went? He owes me four dollars.
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Check out his (updated) profile, Mr M - sadly, looks like he's away for a while.
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i don't know about other police forces in US, since this is an area that falls under "states rights", but in NYC, the police are supposed to file a report every time they un-holster their gun on the street, and they too, must account for every bullet, and file many, many reports if they fire gun on duty. (in fact, the officer is temporarilly (24 hours, 3 day of work!) given "desk duty" so that he/she will have time to complete the paperwork. )
over 90% of the NYC police force complete 20 years on the job with out ever firing a weapon on duty except for testing. (they are required to practice, and pass a marksmanship test every 5 years)
some cop shows have shoot outs every week. one of the reasons i like the cop show(s) law and order is that never once in all the episodes have the stars shot their weapons.. (other cops have, but not the stars of the show)-- they do occationally draw their weapons, but they have never fired them. this is "normal"-- shoot outs, while they make for dramatic stories, are rare. Not that you would know it from most TV shows or movies.
i don't worry much about cop's carrying guns in NYC.
some places in US are very similar, other places, like LA, have very different reputations.
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have on the side of their patrol cars their new motto: We'll Treat You Like a King
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other places, like LA... have on the side of their patrol cars their new motto: We'll Treat You Like a KingS--t!
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We'll Treat You Like a King
...depose and decapitate you ?
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>We'll Treat You Like a King
Or other famous Kings - Martin Luther (I think not), Carole (maybe), Billie Jean (a few tough moments in her remarkable career as the Queen of tennis), Stephen (not really, after the car crash) Jonathan (oh dear, just for Brits, I think) ...
Ah - I know it is California isn't it.
It means that they will, like, treat you to a Burger King.
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