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[f. name n. The use of sake is peculiar, but the comb. may have originated in two persons or things being mentioned or coupled together ‘for the name's sake’: for examples of name-sake in this sense, see sake.]
A person or thing[E.A] having the same name as another.
1646 Sir T. Browne Pseud. Ep. 170 Nor [does] the Dog~fish at sea much more make out the Dog of the land, then that his cognominall or name-sake in the heavens. 1657 J. Watts Vindic. Church Eng. 89, I shall here dehort you from being of Iohn and Iames, (though you are the name-sake of the one). 1712 Addison Spect. No. 482 32 Another..subscribes herself Xantippe, and tells me, that she follows the Example of her Name-sake. 1797 F. Burney Let. June, It was a very sweet thought to make my little namesake write to me. 1826 Scott 26 Mar. in Croker Papers (1884) I. 319, I enclose a letter for your funny namesake and kinsman. 1867 Freeman Norm. Conq. (1877) I. iv. 182 The unhappy descendant and namesake of the great Emperor.
attrib. 1650 Fuller Pisgah ii. 64 Looking southward behold the City of Nebo, at the foot of its namesake mountain. 1860 Forster Gr. Remonstr. 26 Postponing Luke to lucre; and setting more store by a handful of marks than by all the doctrines of their namesake saint.


yes, the answer is clearly d, in that no relationship is implied.

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Uhh, "a" was my intital response before reading further, shona...JFTR.


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the answer is clearly d
Yes, Nuncle - by two books, now.
Though Juan has given yet another first-guess vote to (a), so I still think (a) gets second preference.

his cognominall or name-sake in the heavens
Nice synonym. Speaking of which, would "cognonym" be another?


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It's (a) in my book. It may be used in a fast and loose sense which renders it either or, and (d) may be the exactly correct answer, but if you tell me that so-and-so is so-and-someone else's namesake, I assume (a).



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if you tell me that so-and-so is so-and-someone else's namesake, I assume (a).

Context be damned and Devil take the mindlost.


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...and don't consider the etymology.


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...and don't consider the etymology

Yup - that would decimate the theory!


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...and don't consider the etymology.

Etomology is for insects..."A". yeah, I know there's 'sposed to be an "n" in there




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>but if you tell me that so-and-so is so-and-someone else's namesake, I assume (a).

Once again my antipodean antithesis has backed me into a corner from which the only escape is to agree with him.


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Fish, I think that the phrasing of your quiz...

If you heard that Person A was Person B's namesake, would you assume that:
would direct one to...

(b) Person B was named after Person A
inasmuch as A comes before B.

But to answer as to how I understand the word "namesake" is used, is...
(E) All of the above.

Examples:

(a) Person A was named after Person B
Baby points up at grandpa and sez, "Namesake!".
(b) Person B was named after Person A
Grandpa points down at baby and shouts, "Namesake!".
(c) Both (a) and (b) equally likely
Definitions extend beyond words and dictionaries and are augmented by situations, so sure, why quibble, equal.
(d) None of the above [please provide your interpretation in this case ]
A B and C refer to folks only. The word "namesake" can be applied and understood as a geographic place, or for that matter, anything with a name. So A, B and C can't be correct until you add an (E) All above are correct, then all become correct. I think. - -

Like in this sentence...
" Birmingham, Alabama is the namesake of Birmingham, England."
In this case it doesn't matter which name came first, I've heard it both ways.

Cheerio,
Milo.





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