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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 3 1 2 3 Re: contrails/jet streams #77982 08/09/02 01:38 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 I believe that contrails is the term I've always heard. Chicago, Boston, Flagstaff, Orange County, Upstate New York. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: contrails #77983 08/09/02 01:52 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park of troy Carpal Tunnel of troy Carpal Tunnel Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park like Fishona, i know the term contrails but i don't think i have ever spoken it.. i speak of vapor trails. they are more common nowdays, i remember when 90% of transatlantic flights stopped for a final refueling at boston, (Non stops direct from NY to most parts of europe were not common in the early 1960's)-- Now, you can go Nonstop from paris to chicago! (and farther i am sure.. i just don't fly in or out of chicago, so i don't much think about it) my other obsession Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter I found it! #77984 08/10/02 03:07 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Yea, Atomica! condensation + trail Edit Oops--never mind! Should have read yours closer, sjm. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: I found it! #77985 08/12/02 01:35 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont ran across this tonight: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I51621E71 formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: I found it! #77986 08/12/02 02:43 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Cool, eta--thank you. Interesting; this is something I had never given a thought to, though I shouldn't wonder if all the air traffic doesn't change the actual wind patterns. Whitman, do you happen to know? I guess this was, in fact, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity: authorities would never shut down air traffic for 3 days just so the impact of contrails could be studied. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: I found it! #77987 08/12/02 09:39 PM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,146 Northamptonshire, England Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,146 Northamptonshire, England Well, Jackie, I'm not a scientist, but I would imagine that the phenomenon of a jet crossing a jetstream would be unlikely to make more than local changes to its behaviour. They are caused by a mixture of weather systems and coriolis force, so I figure that there would have to be one hell of a lot of jets flapping about up there to initiate a change. The idiot also known as Capfka ... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re:Contrails - wind #77988 08/13/02 06:30 PM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,439 New England, USA W wow Carpal Tunnel wow Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,439 New England, USA I shouldn't wonder if all the air traffic doesn't change the actual wind patterns. I don't think it likely Jackie. Lived near Pease AFB during Cold War and humongous bombers (SAC) would take off every 15 or 20 seconds and fill the air with contrails. They took off using the Rye Becaon and flew over my back yard. No wind changes - ground to treetops. No weather changes at all were felt or reported. Contrails is used exclusivelt by all Air Force types I have ever met to designate the white trails left by (especially)jet engines across a blue sky. I don't think slower piston-driven-engine planes flew high enough to leave contrails. Anybody? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re:Contrails - wind #77989 08/14/02 10:38 AM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 2,204 R RhubarbCommando Pooh-Bah RhubarbCommando Pooh-Bah R Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 2,204 I don't think slower piston-driven-engine planes flew high enough to leave contrails. Anybody I have a sort of memory of contrails behind the Lockheed Super-Constellations in the late fifties/early sixties. But I may be wrong, there. By that time, there were jet airliners flying around, as well as military stuff, so I may have got mixed up. (Although I do have to say that I was pretty hot on aircraft recgonition in those days.) Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re:Contrails - wind #77990 08/16/02 10:23 PM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,146 Northamptonshire, England Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,146 Northamptonshire, England Contrails are a product of a certain combination of humidity and temperature in the atmosphere. The combination occurs most often at higher altitudes. However, Rhube is quite right. One of the most famous photographs of dogfighting during the Battle of Britain shows contrails behind a goodly number of the aircraft which I believe were Messerschmidt 109s and Hurricanes. Not a jet among 'em. The idiot also known as Capfka ... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re:Contrails - prop planes #77991 08/17/02 08:15 PM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,439 New England, USA W wow Carpal Tunnel wow Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,439 New England, USA Of course you are both correct, and right, too! When I thought non-jet I flashed to Piper Cub type puddle jumpers. Of course larger prop planes would fly high enough to leave contrails. I have these "moments' you see.... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 2 of 3 1 2 3 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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