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#75758 - 07/10/02 07:06 PM Opposites for Good Will  
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Dear AWADers,

We all know that expressions of good will buoy up our spirits. Expressions of good will, unspoken acts of kindness, benevolence, charity in many different types of applications--these are actions and thoughts that make us happy. The giver is just as blessed as the receiver. Particularly so if the giver does so quietly without boasting.

Now I have realized in the past few days that the opposite is also true of certain givers. There are beings for whom giving pain gives them pleasure. Sadists they are sometimes called. There is also a German word I cannot remember that means, essentially, feeling pleasure from knowing someone else is suffering. It's something like schedenfruade--but I can't remember the spelling now.

Anyway, this is a dark topic and I apologize, really, for causing anyone's mind to go where people mean harm to others, but, anyway: What are those words that mean getting pleasure from others' pain, troubles, and distress? Sadism, sadistic...what are others?

My good will is extended to each of you and every one of you who read here, and may any person inclined toward cruelty against any of you be turned around toward love and kindness.

Best regards,
Wordwind


#75759 - 07/10/02 07:22 PM Re: Opposites for Good Will  
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Dear WW: Schadenfreude usually means enjoying mischievous teasing. Enjoyment of causing
pain is more often called masochism.

cha[den[freu[de 7*9d4‘n fr.#d!8
n.
5Ger < schaden, to harm + freude, joy6 glee at another‘s misfortune

#75760 - 07/10/02 07:32 PM Re: Opposites for Good Will  
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The most succinct version I can give of Schadenfreude is 'malicious joy'. Not a very happy word really, but then what's the English word for 'Flokati'. Ah-haa.


#75761 - 07/10/02 07:42 PM Re: Opposites for Good Will  
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Hollywood Love Rugs:

Flokati Rugs: Our collection features 38 individual
selections in fifteen colors, custom sizes and
shapes, and Flokati Pillows as well.

Ye Gods, BY: What in the world is Flokati? Can it compare with a mattress? Remember the old
definition of a mistress? Something between a mister and a mattress?

Laid like a Flokati rug?


#75762 - 07/11/02 03:15 AM Re: Opposites for Good Will  
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Enjoyment of causing pain is more often called masochism.

Now I'm all confused. I thought that was sadism? and that masochism was enjoyment in receiving pain?

reminds me of a t-shirt created by a late high school friend of mine: two people on it, with the caption: "When sadists meet masochists." The masochist (presumably!) is saying, "Hurt me," and the sadist is saying, "No."



Let us go in peace to love and serve the board.

#75763 - 07/11/02 05:21 PM Re: Opposites for Good Will  
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MG - you are correct. A masochist is one who enjoys receiving pain. I don't think it matters who initiates the pain although I think self-inflicted pain is common.

As a cubs fan I can relate to the term...


#75764 - 07/11/02 09:39 PM Re: Opposites for Good Will  
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Yeah Chem, as a Cubs fan I know that you can relate to a dictionary of masochistic remarks. Would it offend you if I agreed? - -
Mild Mannered Milum.


#75765 - 07/12/02 02:11 AM Re: Opposites for Good Will  
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Can't mention masochism without getting Tom Lehere's take on the subject:

The Masochism Tango

How I ache for the touch of your lips, dear,
But much more for the feel of your whips, dear,
You can raise welts,
Like nobody else,
As we dance to the Masochism Tango!

Let our love be a flame, not an ember,
Say it's me that you want to dismember,
Blacken my eye,
And set fire to my tie,
As we dance to the Masochism Tango!

At your command,
Before you hear I stand,
My heart is in my hand... Yeech!
It's here that I must be.
My heart entreats,
Just hear those savage beats
And go put on your cleats,
And come and trample me...

Your heart is hard as stone or mahogany,
That's why I'm in such exquisite agony,
My soul is on fire,
I'm aflame with desire,
As we dance to the Masochism Tango!

You caught my nose,
In your left castanet, love,
I can feel the pain yet, love,
Every time I hear drums...
And I envy the rose,
That you held with your teeth, love,
With the thorns underneath, love,
Sticking into your gums...

Take your cigarette from its holder,
And burn your initials in my shoulder,
Fracture my spine,
And swear that your mine,
As we dance to the Masochism Tango!

Bash in my brain,
And make me scream with pain,
And kick me once again,
And swear we'll never part.
I know full well
I'm underneath your spell,
So darling, if you smell
Something burning, it's my heart...

Your eyes cast a spell that bewitches,
The last time I needed twenty stitches
To sew up the gash
That you made with your lash,
As we dance to the Masochism Tango!



#75766 - 07/12/02 08:23 AM Tom Lehrer  
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The Masochism Tango

- and it has such a good piano arrangement!

Thanks for that, slithy. Always one of my favourites of his.
Although "Christmas Time Is Here By Golly" is a pretty good antidote to the festive season.



#75767 - 07/12/02 10:23 AM Re: Christmas Time  
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Well, Fish, that's a tease! What are the lyrics? You're just leaving us here, after our chuckle over the tango, telling us you know another one... Well? Fish or cut bait!

Bait regards,
WordWader


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