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#74683 07/03/02 01:36 PM
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General McClellan

http://home.hra.org/~phopki/civpeo.htm

and more:

http://www.civilweek.com/1862/nov0262.htm

haven't been able to find out much about "the slows", though...



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#74684 07/03/02 01:55 PM
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okay, now we're getting somewhere:

http://cousins.future.easyspace.com/medS.html

anybody want to take it from here?



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alright, from the same source:

In reply to:

Milk sickness

Poisoning resulting from the drinking of milk produced by a cow who had eaten a plant known as white snake root (USA)




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#74686 07/03/02 02:06 PM
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okay, not in reference to "the slows" (which is on the site etaoin linked to - thanks e!), but I found, also on that site, an archaic name for a condition: "speckled dick." The definition said something like "might be typhus." Speckled dick. Just makes me think of that British pudding, Spotted Dick....How DO they come up with these names?!

(I know Spotted Dick has raisins in it, yes? hence the "spotted" - but why "dick"? derived from "Richard" maybe - but why "Richard" in the first place?)

Speckled dick is somehow very poetic, doncha think?! (though doubtless not for the sufferer of such a condition)

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that British pudding, Spotted Dick

Lots of fun (food) stuff in this thread, MG, including a bit on Spotty Richard:
http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=wordplay&Number=5975

I don't know where the "Dick" part came from, but wouldn't be entirely surprised now if it turns out to be a play on speckled dick, distasteful as that may sound..

Actually the thread above is all about foods that don't sound nice. Maybe we should resurrect it.

Fisk



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Dear etaoin: my warmest congratulations on finding something I could not. Bill

Since you refreshed my memory,I remember having read many years ago about a problem when
cow grazed in badly depleted pastures with no fences, and and ate weeds they normally would
not have. I searched for "botany white snake root milk sickness" and got what appeared to be
a very promising site, only to get sad message "Server not found" Drat.

20.FDA/CFSAN Poisonous Plant Bibliography (SI-SZ Authors)
Introduction. Poisonous Plant Bibliography: SI ... hemolytic anemias seen, in snake ... Cardiac
effects of white ... of the cause of milk sickness ... BH (1987) Mystery root ...
http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~djw/SI-SZ.html



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From a trivia quiz: 13. Of whom was Lincoln speaking when he said that he had....THE SLOWS?
[Answered: General McClellan
Also noted: "the slows" = milk sickness]

Interestingly, Lincoln's mother died of milk sickness.
http://www.nps.gov/abli/plantj.htm

(His reference to Mcclellan was figurative, not medical.)


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Oh, hell! How'd he get in here?
Keiva: You are not welcome here.


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