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#69204 05/08/02 09:21 AM
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Being relatively new to that wonderful machine, the bureaucracy, it still shocks and appals me that people can seriously use the word diarise! Just wondering whether anyone else wanted to get new words they hate off their chest... especially if it's bureaucratese... The other I hate is "action" as a verb, although maybe that's actually legit. Why can't people just say 'I'll do something about that'?

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diarise

The way you spell it makes it look like it means to rise through or across something.

Meanwhilst, you've just got to take a proactive approach to things like this, al.


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My guess, alexis, is that you are using diarise to mean writing in a diary. Us USn's would spell it diarize. Which causes me to wonder: why are we inconsistent with advertise?


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RE: Being relatively new to that wonderful machine, the bureaucracy

Have you learned the bureaucrate's prayer yet?

When in wonder
or in doubt,
run in circles
and scream and shout.


and as bad as it may seem, think about this.. our cosmic stories, about the big dipper, (Ursa major) or Orion, the hunter, or Leo the lion, come to us full of natural life..animals, hunters, woman with urns, carrying water...

in China, the constalation we know as the big dipper is seen as a gaint cart, filled with bureaucrates, and trailing after them, the long scrolls, of tax records.. bureaucratesy is so old in China, is part of the cosmology!


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As a person of tolerance I prefer to think of the bureacracies among us as self-perpetuating social filters that slow the injudicous actions of the impetuous.
Certain obtuse wordings are necessary for the self-perpetuation.

Now, Alexis, if you will stop teasing and get off your...(please excuse me I almost said "diarise")...duffer, and tell me what "diarise" means, I will action the word immediately. - -


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When I hear diari(z/s)e, I think of making a notation in my diary/agenda/calendar/scheduler for a future date, to remind me to do something then. I've always loved the term tickler system to describe this system (in law school, they kept telling us to make sure we had a good tickler system in place, so as not to miss limitation periods, for example). I guess tickling or ticklering something just sounds too frivolous for the big bad world of business, but I like it!


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tell me what "diarise" means, I will action the word immediately

Just agendise(ize) it for the next attitude session (you can search for the definition below).

if you want to see some really scary words, just look here: http://www.cocs.com/jhoagland/terms.html

Here's a few examples for non-link-follower types (hello Jackie).

Something makes me think that some people would prefer this information not to be so easily available, clearly Michigan has some very scary people:

Amafight: (verb)
More than a disagreement, this is a fight between two people over any subject regarding building an Amway business. Some distributors believe these fights are actually good for married couples.

"stinking thinking": (noun)
The derogatory name for a distributor's "condition" when he makes negative comments about life or the Amway business.

"stinking thinking loser": (noun)
The derogatory name for a person who has "stinking thinking" and who has quit the Amway business. After all, distributors claim, only "winners" build the business.



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If we could diarise blue we'd all look Scandinavian.

Or is this what Prince Charles said after his bride bowed low before him?



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When I first heard the word "diarise" many years ago I had that uncomfortable, priggish feeling that one gets when lazy abusers of language make up ugly constructs. But over time I have slipped right into using it because I can't remember what we used to say before! "I'll make an entry of that in my diary"? Please, who has the time?

For the same reason people use "action" as a verb; it takes half the time to say. I haven't yet succumbed to that usage but past experience shows that I will eventually lose my sniffy attitude and fall in with the mainstream. I just don't have much staying power as a zealot. (sigh)


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Oh, Phyllis, welcome back! <grin> I don't think the word that started this thread is likely to come in vogue in the U.S. in the near future; here, a diary is a private journal, for writing one's thoughts in. What we put our appointments in, we call a calendar, generally, although I believe some brand names may be substituted, esp. for electronic calendars: "I'll put it in my Palm Pilot". Our usual expression is, "I'll put it on my calendar". Is that what you used to say before the new term became so common that it drove the correct one out of memory? (Hello, all you fans of 'orientated' for oriented'!)



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