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Re: Byron poem Boatswain #67412
04/27/02 04:04 PM
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Dear wow; header in Yahoo search box yielded the poem:

http://www.gad.net/Newf-FAQ/Newf-FAQ_15.html


Re: Byron poem Boatswain #67413
04/27/02 04:27 PM
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Cripes! I never felt so useless as in reading Byron's estimation of man:

Who knows thee well, must quit thee with disgust,
Degraded mass of animated dust!


Imagine greeting a classroom of children with these words,

"Good morning, you degraded masses of animated dust!"

Beastly regards,
DeadDog


PS: Thanks, Bill, for the link. Woof! Woof!

Re: Llewellyn And His Dog - a poem and Welsh folk tale #67414
04/28/02 12:23 AM
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a comprehensive look at the legend and the Celtic myths behind it

Croker (Fairy Legends of Ireland, vol. iii. p. 165) points out several places where the legend seems to have been localised in place-names - two places, called "Gwal y Vilast" ("Greyhound's Couch"), in Carmarthen and Glamorganshire; "Llech y Asp" ("Dog's Stone"), in Cardigan, and another place…

Fascinating stuff, Whit – thanks! I must find out more about this Llech y Asp, and I am also curious because the normal word for dog is cwn.

I love the idea of these tales migrating across the face of the globe so that a Bhuddhistic text eventually becomes subsumed into Celtic culture (and we wonder about the migration of language…!)

This concludes the literary route of the Legend of Gellert from India to Wales: Buddhistic Vinaya Pitaka - Fables of Bidpai; - Oriental Sindibad;-Occidental Seven Sages of Rome ; - " English" (Latin), Gesta Romanorum ;-Welsh, Fables of Cattwg.


http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/cft/cft28.htm


Re: Llewellyn And His Dog - a poem and Welsh folk tale #67415
04/28/02 05:14 AM
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It really should be set to music--I wonder if it has...

From the "sacred-texts" link:
The legend is now firmly established at Bedd Gellert, There is said to be an ancient air, "Bedd Gelert," " as sung by the Ancient Britons"; it is given in a pamphlet published at Carnarvon in the "fifties," entitled Gellert's Grave; or, Llewellyn's Rashness: a Ballad, by the Hon. W R. Spencer, to which is added that ancient Welsh air, "Bedd Gelert," as sung by the Ancient Britons. The air is from R. Roberts' "Collection of Welsh Airs," but what connection it has with the legend I have been unable to ascertain. This is probably another case of adapting one tradition to another.

There you are WordWanderer...a-googlin' now to go! ...

The Only WO'N!

Re: Llewellyn And His Dog - a poem and Welsh folk tale #67416
04/29/02 08:01 AM
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In reply to:

Also found this curious tidbit in the text:
or in Bingley's Tour in Wales (1800).

Bingley?...your namesake? Or have you been around a lot longer than you've been letting on to us?


Yes, indeed. I did take a tour in Wales shortly before the events recorded by Miss Austen, and had often thought of publishing my journal of that time before I entered cryogenic suspension. I had no idea someone in my family had actually induced a publisher to bring out my scribblings.



Bingley



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Re: Llewellyn And His Dog - a poem and Welsh folk tale #67417
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So that's why Anu has you listed as a veteran!


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