Wordsmith.org: the magic of words

Wordsmith Talk

About Us | What's New | Search | Site Map | Contact Us  

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#62840 03/28/02 07:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
W
wwh Offline OP
Carpal Tunnel
OP Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
Today's Word reminded me of "prunes and prisms". When I looked that up I was directed to a Bartleby site where I found this:

NOUN:
AFFECTATION; affectedness &c. adj.; acting a part &c. v.; pretense
(falsehood) [See Falsehood], (ostentation) [See Ostentation]; boasting [See
Boasting]; charlatanism, quackery, shallow profundity.
pretension, airs, pedantry, pedantism, purism, precisianism, stiffness,
formality, buckram; prunes and prisms; euphuism; teratology (altiloquence)
[See Ornament].
prudery, demureness, mock modesty, minauderie [F.], sentimentalism;
mauvaise honte [F.], false shame.
mannerism, simagrée [F.], grimace.
FOPPERY, dandyism, man millinery, coxcombry, coquetry, puppyism,
conceit.
AFFECTER or affector, performer, actor; pedant, pedagogue, doctrinaire,
purist, euphuist, mannerist; grimacier [rare]; lump of affectation, précieuse
ridicule [F.], bas bleu [F.], blue stocking, poetaster; prig; charlatan
(deceiver) [See Deceiver]; petit maître [F.] (fop) [See Fop]; flatterer [See
Flatterer]; coquette, prude, puritan, precisian, formalist.

Two words I didn't see were "precious" meaning excessively euphuistic, and "préciocité" meaning much the same thing.
Who wants to volunteer a definition of "prunes and prisms"?


#62841 03/28/02 10:26 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296
W
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296
Well, I'll always volunteer for the blind stab.

Prunes and prisms:

This phrase says to me people who eat prunes, who are the elderly, but not just the ordinary elderly, but those who live beneath the glow of chandeliers with a wealth of glowing prisms.

Also, prunes makes me think of people with snobbishly pursed mouths--so these old people of chandeliers are definitely snobs with prunishly pursed mouths.

That's Wordwind's take, Bill.

Best regards,
WorthingtonWorthiness


#62842 03/28/02 10:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
W
wwh Offline OP
Carpal Tunnel
OP Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
Dear WW: I share your mental picture of disapproving pursed up lips, plus a precious over proper prudishness.


#62843 03/28/02 11:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 328
enthusiast
Offline
enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 328
these old people of chandeliers are definitely snobs with prunishly pursed mouths.

WW, you've just given me a new perspective on a name: in Prince Caspian by C.S. Lewis, Caspian's disagreeable aunt is named Prunaprismia!



#62844 03/29/02 01:35 AM
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,605
K
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
K
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,605
la-di-da

Was not the first women's champion at Wimbleton a Miss Lottie Dodd?


#62845 03/29/02 01:10 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296
W
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296
Dear Keiva,

You wrote, Was not the first women's champion at Wimbleton a Miss Lottie Dodd?

Now, keep in mind I am very gullible and know next to nothing about sports. Are you jesting here, or is this the truth? And, if the truth, would butter melt in the mouth of Miss Lottie Dodd?

Best regards,
Wordwind
PS: Rapunzel, glad you enjoyed that little flight of fancy.



#62846 03/31/02 05:48 AM
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,605
K
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
K
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,605
Are you jesting here, or is this the truth?

No jest. Miss Dod did not win the first women's championship (1884), but she won those of 1887, 1888, 1891, 1892 and 1893. She is the youngest champion (age 15) in the history of Wimbledon.
http://www.tenniscorner.net/stats/thechampionshipswomenssinglesfinals.php
http://www.infoplease.com/ipsa/A0109135.html


#62847 04/02/02 05:22 AM
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,065
B
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
B
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,065
Prunes and prism was coined by Charles Dickens. It first appears in Book 2 Chapter 5 of "Little Dorrit".

'Papa is a preferable mode of address,' observed Mrs General.
'Father is rather vulgar, my dear. The word Papa, besides, gives
a pretty form to the lips. Papa, potatoes, poultry, prunes, and
prism are all very good words for the lips: especially prunes and
prism. You will find it serviceable, in the formation of a
demeanour, if you sometimes say to yourself in company--on entering
a room, for instance--Papa, potatoes, poultry, prunes and prism,
prunes and prism.'


http://www.concordance.com/cgi-bin/letsr.pl

Bingley


Bingley
#62848 04/02/02 02:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
W
wwh Offline OP
Carpal Tunnel
OP Offline
Carpal Tunnel
W
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,858
Dear Bingley: Thanks for the origin of "prunes and prisms". I enjoyed Dickens, but simply could not read all
of his books.



Moderated by  Jackie 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Statistics
Forums16
Topics13,913
Posts229,351
Members9,182
Most Online3,341
Dec 9th, 2011
Newest Members
Ineffable, ddrinnan, TRIALNERRA, befuddledmind, KILL_YOUR_SUV
9,182 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 804 guests, and 2 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters(30 Days)
Top Posters
wwh 13,858
Faldage 13,803
Jackie 11,613
wofahulicodoc 10,549
tsuwm 10,542
LukeJavan8 9,918
AnnaStrophic 6,511
Wordwind 6,296
of troy 5,400
Disclaimer: Wordsmith.org is not responsible for views expressed on this site. Use of this forum is at your own risk and liability - you agree to hold Wordsmith.org and its associates harmless as a condition of using it.

Home | Today's Word | Yesterday's Word | Subscribe | FAQ | Archives | Search | Feedback
Wordsmith Talk | Wordsmith Chat

© 1994-2024 Wordsmith

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5