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Okay. So there's a French word, which is also used in German to describe an artist's workshop. I can't think of it. It's not atelia, or Atelier, depending on your lingo, but there's one that refers specifically to a well decked-out studio/gallery, originally situated in Paris, I guess.
Anyway, the name is definitely an eponym of a French artist - which means it is probably glaringly obvious to our art lovers here. So what is it?
p.s. Why do artists always have to inhabit the top floors of buildings, and then make fancy names for what is essentially a loft?
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Why do artists always have to inhabit the top floors of buildings?
So they can get the skylight light, much better than window light for illumination.
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> So they can get the skylight light
Me, fool! Of course, that diffuse light source seeping in from above the picture-plane makes portraits a dream, huh?
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and not just any sky lights, but preferable a north facing one. so they never have direct sun light and harsh shadows, but rather always subdued light..
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Plus the fact that top floor rent is often less.
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Plus the fact that top floor rent is often less.
Hmmm, might be where you are Dr. Bill, but up here in Oz it's normally the other way around. Get a ground floor apartment and you can expect to pay less for rent and more for insurance. Nasty criminal types don't have as far to climb if they want to break in and start carting your gear away.
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Dear hev: I lived in Boston for four years going to medical school. The houses were all getting close to a hundred years old, built in rows with common walls. They had been built as town houses for wealthy people who had left long ago. In most of them the owners lived in lowest two levels. Though there were four murders less than a few hundred yards from where I lived on top floor, I never heard of any burglary. I could walk a couple miles up to theater district late at night without having to worry about being robbed. The girls in the class did too. How things have changed. My daughter was mugged close to the medical school in late seventies, and students were robbed inside the medical school.
Right after WWII all the Southern States gave their welfare recipients bus tickets North. A friend from South Carolina told me this, and thought it uproariously funny.
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> but preferable a north facing one
Hey - there IS a southern hemisphere you know.
Leaves - muttering about northern-centric, monocultural unawareness of politically unimportant countries south of zero degrees latitude......which just happen to be fantastic places to live - and paint (with light from a south facing window)
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Is there a word that could be used interchangably that would describe the proper direction to face that is away from the sun that would be appropriate for both the northern and southern hemispheres?
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> but preferable a north facing one
Hey - there IS a southern hemisphere you know.are we to assume, then, that there are no Ascian artists? http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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If we were talking about the wind the word would be lee. To face away from the direction the wind is coming from (which is the only real direction we can measure) is to face to leeward.
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RE:Right after WWII all the Southern States gave their welfare recipients bus tickets North.
this is rather simple and basicly untrue. Certainly, many GI's, during basic training, and on their way to europe and the pacific, passed through areas they had never seen, and learned more about other states.
and in the post war prosperity, automotive plants (in MI) and industries in Chicago, saw hugh influxes of people from Appalachia. (both white and black)
but for blacks in particular, the north seemed very appealing. in WWII when many poor rural blacks met northern blacks for the first time, and discoved that a crumby school in a NYC (or Boston) ghetto, provided better education than a white school in Alabama-- and it was a very quick and smart decision to move north! (check US Army IQ test results from WWII--On average, Norther Blacks out scored souther whites by a wide margin) racism in the north was different than in the south, but there were absolutely more opportunites. and in some cases, people intentionally applied for welfare, simple to get a free bus ticket north-- knowing they could get jobs!
In the past 20 years, many of those job have moved back to the south. (especially automotive jobs). things have also changed in the south.
Internal migration was fueled as much by the mass movement of young impressionable men, who returned "home" and decided places they has seen along the way were more appealing-- as it was by "shipping" welfare recipients north.
and to some degee, it happened other places too, Oz, GB, come to mind-- both had a lot of internal migration (as well as influxes of immigrants) post WWII-- and most was to cities!
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No - the light's too bright - and they're asleep most of the time anyway....
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this is rather simple and basicly untrue.
Dear of troy: The friend from South Carolina was not a red-neck, and he was not a liar. Of course there were other factors involved. But you have no first hand knowledge to declare his statement untrue.
And remember, I did not mention blacks.
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Is there a word that could be used interchangably that would describe the proper direction to face that is away from the sun that would be appropriate for both the northern and southern hemispheres?Antiheliotropic? Antiheliotactic? Interestingly, Websters defines heliotropic as "turning toward the sun", but AHD defines it as "growth ... toward or away from the light of the sun". Comments? http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=heliotropic
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Dear Ken: Way back in 1935 I learned that plants produce growth hormones called auxins. These travel preferntially in the shaded part of the stem, giving a growth differential that makes plant bend and turn toward the sun. I cannot recall hearing of a plant that bends or turns away from the sun. Heliotropic would mean growth influenced by sun, Heliotactic would mean plant moving towards sun. I think.
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There's always "photophobic", but that's probably too extreme....
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This is all so interesting guys, but can no one answer my question? What's is the name of that French artist, or rather the name for an artist's studio named after him?
BelM? Anyone?
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[flash of inspiration after reading the thread several times] Are you thinking of "garrett", BY? (Spelling might be off there) I don't think that is an eponym, but it seems to be along the lines of what you are looking for.
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Thanks for the suggestion Flatlander, but as you write, this is not an eponym. Garret is a French word though, innit - so we're in the ball-park, but it obviously comes from the same derivative as garrison.
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Gawd, I'm not from the US and even I know that a Garrett is a type of steam locomotive built in the late nineteenth century. Steam as art?  
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What's the name?
Mansard?
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Mansard?I know Mansard refers to a type of roof, but was unaware that it referred to the top floor of a building too. BTW, nice to see you posting Boby! [kiss-e] 
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That's it. 'die Mansarde' or 'das Mansardendach' in German. Cheers ByB .
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Per the AHD, named after François Mansart, French architect.
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Yes, Bob, it is nice to see you posting! [kiss on my spot e] Here's a neat set of pictures that somebody posted here a way long time ago. (tsuwm, I'll do it right, this time.  ) http://www.m-w.com/mw/art/roof.htm
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> François Mansart, French architect.
Yeah, that's him. According to my encyclopaedia he was very influential, yet rarely rates a mention in any modern architectural teachings.
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curious fact (that i picked up somewhere)
a mansard roof, by ny city building code, has more than a 77° and no less than a a 57° pitch.
do any of the site (since Jazzo, our other source is off bathing) list the pitch of his famous roof?
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Is there a word that could be used interchangably that would describe the proper direction to face that is away from the sun that would be appropriate for both the northern and southern hemispheres?
From oceanography... poleward? (Has nothing to do with sun but we describe things as poleward or equatorward when the cardinal-direction-description isn't the same in both hemispheres.)
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To get back to attics for a moment! Gosh you guys move fast, can't keep up with the flow!
FWIW
Attic – pertaining to Attica, and particularly its capital Athens. A decorative form of construction originating there consisted of a small column mounted above a larger column and hence the space enclosed within the upper, smaller columns came to be kown as the attic storey.
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do any of the site (since Jazzo, our other source is off bathing) list the pitch of his famous roof?
The exact slope, I would say, is not really important. Mansart developed his famous roof because of the Housmann reforms in the late C19. Part of his regulations for new construction limited building height by number of stories (to ensure that his grand boulevards would be sunlit). The top floor was considered an attic and did not count against the limitations. To squeeze in an extra useable floor, Mansart created the steep roof, and his innovation was immediately picked up by others.
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