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Meandering thoughts while studying for art history exam . . .
Merriam Webster says that urban comes from the Latin word for city (urbs). How, if at all, does this relate to urbane (notably polite or finished in manner) and Urban, as in the name of various popes, including the one who started the Crusades?
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The city dwellers bashfully boast of their polished manners, though only a minority could justify that claim. Name of Urban for Popes I have never seen discussed.
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Yes, it appears that being in a densely populated area like a city imposed nicer manners, like you can't fart in public.
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In fact, in Italian we use
villano (coming from living in villa, here means living outside the cities) meaning not polite.
Also, with the same meaning, contadino = peasan, literally living in the contado , where contado is the whole land belonging to a conte, and conte is count, earl?.
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You use contadino to mean not polite?
Interesting. Clicking that in with Bobyb's fart in public post makes me wonder if I ever want to eat Contadino Tomato Paste again. It's an USn brand name.
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well, it depends on the context.
In the contadino tomato sauce the first meaning coming in mind is that it is suggesting that those tomatoes grew in a very safe way, without chemicals added, as the tomatoes that the contadini were growing for their own use.
And a very common way to preserve them was to cook them , then put them in bottles, and finally to boil for at least one hour. Someone still does at home. I give it up about tomatoes, but I do the same with red hot peppers.
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Thank you for that info, emanuela. What I like about this place. All the cross cultural influences.
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Thank you for that info, emanuela. What I like about this place. All the cross cultural influences. Yes, and people who aid in the deterioration of such cultures by the use in polite society of crudities, like the nice word "fart". 
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Dear Milum: "Fart" is indeed an unattractive word. What better word can you suggest?
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Milum, Who're y'all callin' polite society? 
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