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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4 . #54434 01/31/02 03:04 AM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 M Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: May I have some pie on Sunday? #54435 01/31/02 04:49 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta B Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta I think PIE (Proto Indo-European) had ceased to be spoken long before the 7-day week reached Europe. Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Sunnuntai #54436 01/31/02 10:32 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 This is way too Germanic sounding to be anything but. Any idea what the other day names are? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Sunnuntai #54437 01/31/02 01:29 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Google led me to this huge 'names' site (Max, it looks like a good one for your references page!) but I couldn't find Finnish days of the week on it -- even though google tells me they're there. Any takers? http://jerryhill.tripod.com/ Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: May I have some pie on Sunday? #54438 01/31/02 01:30 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park of troy Carpal Tunnel of troy Carpal Tunnel Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park Dear Bingley, obviously, you are a word maven... the seven day work week is 24/7, 22/7 is a coarse pi. Max, i loved it![/white} my other obsession Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Maanantai - Perjantai #54439 01/31/02 01:47 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Here's the days from Monday to Friday per this site: http://www.hut.fi/~tkvopint/topiusage.html Maanantai Monday Tiistai Tuesday Keskiviikko Wednesday Torstai Thursday Perjantai Friday Wednesday looks like it might be a loan translation from the German Mittwoch. Well, part loan translation part loan word. Who knows where they got that Perjan for Friday! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Maanantai - Perjantai #54440 01/31/02 02:35 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 393 London N NicholasW enthusiast NicholasW enthusiast N Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 393 London Keski-viikko is indeed Mid-week. The others look like borrowings near the proto-Germanic stage: cf German Montag, Sonntag. The Finnish words were borrowed from some Germanic stage at which the genitive endings were still present: *Monan-dag, *Sunnan-dag. But probably after the original ending (in *dagaz) had been lost. Finnish has no F, nor initial clusters, so Perjan- could be from Freyja (or rather her counterpart in whatever Germanic language Old Finnish abutted). The Finnish for king is kuningas if I recall correctly; this retains the *-az of Germanic (= Greek -os, Latin -us, still preserved in Icelandic -ur) so was presumably borrowed before the day names. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Maanantai - Perjantai #54441 01/31/02 02:50 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Keski-viikko is indeed Mid-week. Interesting, given that I found, whil(e,st) searching for the Finnish day names, the datum that German Mittwoch was a Christian reaction to Mercury-day being named after a pagan god. But why just Woden's day and not the others? The only Western Gemanic language that I know that lost the -g at the end of day is English but one would expect Finnish to have gotten their loans from a Northern Germanic language. How is it in Scandanavian languages? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter . #54442 01/31/02 09:39 PM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 M Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: May I have some pie on Sunday? #54443 01/31/02 09:50 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park of troy Carpal Tunnel of troy Carpal Tunnel Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park mea culpa, mea culpa, mea Maxima culpa.. but i've already been called to task... reading in flat mode as do.. i mis-read it, and though my dear Mr. Bingley didn't understand.. so i am twice at fault! i am going back to the sheep thread.. i wanted to do some knitting anyway.. my other obsession Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... 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