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SWMBO and I went out to eat at a local hostelry last night as is our wont when nothing better offers. The soup kitchens are soooo unreliable these days. Anyway, on the door of this establishment was one of those ubiquitous signs advertising the fact that the place had an alarm system and who provided it. I figure that businesses allow these signs to be put up so that burglars can tell what kind of alarm system to bone up on before defeating it. Saves wanton destruction. This sign was a little different, however. It had these words inscribed on it (but not in letters of gold six foot high on the wall of the BHP in Newcastle - and I never let a chance go by, do I): Anti-Robbery Device InstalledSo what? you may well be asking yourself. Well, the thing is that I have never seen the term "anti-robbery" used before. "Anti-burglary", yes. "Anti-robbery", no. A genteel discussion of this wondrous term ensued in the dining room over a beer and an alcopop. SWMBO holds that "anti-robbery" probably means a device which protects the cash if there is a hold-up. I remain unconvinced - I see it as probably being a synonym for "anti-burglary". We could have asked, but ... Comment?
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Robbery to me conjures up images of violence, shouting and physical confrontation. Like the stales' household at the kids' bedtime
Burglary on the other hand smacks of stealth and sneaking.
I reckon an anti-burglary device could be a loaded 12 gauge.
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Closed circuit TV, alarm direct to police station.
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SWMBO holds that "anti-robbery" probably means a device which protects the cash if there is a hold-up. I remain unconvinced - I see it as probably being a synonym for "anti-burglary".
It was probably intended as the latter; many hold out for a difference between robbery and burglary that would argue for SWMBO's definition.
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mmm, that's what it would tend to denote for me, too - robbery is more general, burglary implies theft from (unattended) premises. So anti-theft devices might either protect the cash - or, as frequently nowadays - be specifically designed to protect the staff from attack, such as by use of emergency alarms. etc. But it's not a trench I'm gonna die in!
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But it's not a trench I'm gonna die in!We both seriously over ate - desserts, you know - and were groaning before we left. That was a trencher we almost DID die in!
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There was a story in newspaper many years ago, about a thug pistol whipping store owner, emptying cash register, but proprietor getting pistol under counter and shooting the crook, who was able to get outside, but collapsed. When the police brought storeowner out to identify the crook, the crook shook his fist at the store owner, and threatened: "I'm going to sue you!"
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Far be it from me to cry "Yart", but I know we have discussed the difference between robbery, B&E and burglary before. I believe it was Sparteye who confirmed that burglary is breaking and entering of private enclosed premises after dark. For the benefit of Holmes aficionados, there is a reference to this in the Adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton.
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Bill, there is a case on record of a lawsuit brought by an unsuccessful burglar who fell from the roof of the building to the floor inside when the skylight he was breaking through gave way. This was in California, of course.
Another observation, getting back to the original post. You can buy counterfeit stickers which state that the premises are protected by one or another well-known security firm. They only cost a few dollars and probably have the same deterrent effect of a genuine sticker issued by a co. which charges $50 or more per month for a real alarm system.
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You can buy counterfeit stickers which state that the premises are protected by one or another well-known security firm.
Just a couple of weeks ago, we had a young man stop by selling, not burglar alarms, but stickers! He was going door to door. Something about the idea of our entire neighborhood sporting the same stickers, just didn't make me feel all that interested in buying them.
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I'm trying to separate my knowledge of the legal distinction between robbery and burglary from my impression of the meaning of CapK's sign, since commercial establishments are not known for attending to the niceties of the meanings of the signs they create or post. Still, I am left with a perception of a difference between an "anti-robbery" system and an "anti-burglary" system. If shopping for the former, I would expect a system designed to prevent the taking of valuables from my store, its employees and customers, by force (or threat); if shopping for the latter, I would expect a system designed to prevent the taking of valuables from the store by stealth, typically while it is unoccupied.
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Sparteye has once again come through for us! Newspapers are very sensitive about the difference between a burglary and a robbery ... If you want to hear from a handsome Judge just confuse the two when reporting on a Grand Jury's True Bill and you'll hear from him ... but not the sweet nothings you were hoping for! wow ( who is feeling a bit silly and lightheaded today as the painters have finally finished and the house is back to a semblance of order and looking all fresh and perky thanks to new wall COLORS! Lordy me, but I was sick of white walls!)
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I thought that an anti-robbery device was one of those dye- shooting devices that covers the tea -leaf and the cash he tried to half -inch in a stinking red dye
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Ok, Duncan, you got me --what's a tea-leaf, in your context? Might as well 'splain half-inch, while you're at it, please.
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half-inch = pinch
Haven't got tea-leaf yet.
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tea -leaf =thief
but i didn't get it till faldage posted half inch=pinch..
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tea -leaf =thief
D'oh! I was reading it as a verb!
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No, wait. I had it as a noun but I was trying to make it the object of the verb half-inch.
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