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#53892 - 01/25/02 09:13 PM Departure
Keiva Offline
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I am leaving the board, for the reasons stated at the end of my post of four days ago (link below). Thank you.


#53893 - 01/25/02 09:35 PM Re: Departure
Jackie Offline

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I am deeply sorry for your upset, and that you did not find what you expected here, my friend.

#53894 - 01/26/02 11:35 AM Re: Departure
consuelo Offline
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What she said. Precisely.

#53895 - 01/26/02 08:13 PM Re: Departure
consuelo Offline
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BTW, has anyone seen WW lately? The air is getting stale around here.

#53896 - 01/27/02 05:05 AM Re: Departure
Wordwind Offline
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Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 6296
Loc: Piedmont Region of Virginia, U...
Dear Consuelo and Everybody (just about),

I am leaving, too. I have made some good friends here who will remain my good friends through emails. But the viciousness and acid I have felt from someone here has simply proven to be too much and I do not want that person to be privy to my thoughts here any longer. To sense someone's unfair judgment has been unknown to me before joining this board. I've been active on a music board for years, and never did anyone attack me. I see no sense in my offering myself up as a sacrifice so this person can jab at me in nasty ways. This was a place of joy to me--much friendly wit--and terrific exchange of information that so often delighted me. So many of you have been kind to me and encouraging--as I see your kindness extended to others on this board.

I'm afraid I'm one of those sensitive types--emotional, perhaps thin-skinned (heaven knows the people in my life know I'm strong!!)--but words do hurt--even a single very sarcastic word wrapped in a veil of cruelty--and I will not submit myself to this kind of treatment ever again.

I fear that sometimes what's written on this board--in a guise of superior humor--is not conducive to the good of the board. But I'm not a knight, as I wrote to Keiva--I do not know how to fight this without the board's becoming a place of flaming, and that categorically is not good for the health of a board.

I'm happy to be leaving as an "Old Hand"!!! It's been great being here--other than the nasty PM's--and I wish all of you great fun in your exploration of language, good-willed humor (please read here clearly: good-willed), and joy.

Truly, best regards,
Wordwind, who will now take her leave like the wind

PS: I do want to offer one easy suggestion. To those of you who write in foreign languages, it would be an act of kindness to show translations in white. We seek to understand each other here, and it has been frustrating for me sometimes not to know all the languages that are presented here. Just a suggestion--but I believe it would be good for all the readers. Edit: I want to add here that I, too, have been guilty of dropping the foreign phrase without translation. This suggestion comes from a new awareness that I believe would benefit all.

#53897 - 01/27/02 07:41 AM For the record
Jackie Offline

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Posts: 11613
Loc: Louisville, Kentucky
I now know that it was the same person who sent both Wordwind and Geoff the PM's that caused them to leave. I was not surprised when I found out it was you. I cried every day for six weeks over what you said to me last summer, and still do if I think about it too much. I don't know whether your intention is to be cruel, but I'm telling you now, your words come across as cruel. I hadn't been hurt that badly in years. Years. Maybe you are a person who can "take it" and assume everybody else can, or ought to be able to. But a great many of us can't. I noticed early on that a lot of us are artistic in various ways, and I think perhaps a lot of artistic folk are extra sensitive, somehow. So I am asking you to please restrain your words somehow--to my knowledge, you alone have caused this board to lose two fine contributors. And more importantly, they are two lovely people who did not deserve to be hurt in that way. And if your intent was to be cruel to these people, then I am telling you flat-out to stop it.

#53898 - 01/27/02 09:33 AM Departures
stales Offline
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Registered: 11/13/00
Posts: 866
Loc: Perth, Western Australia
I am saddened and bemused by what I have read here.

I trust that this is a hard won lesson for those of us that remain - in the absence of sticks and stones, words can harm.


#53899 - 01/27/02 02:36 PM .
Max Quordlepleen Offline
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#53900 - 01/27/02 02:55 PM Re: For the record
maverick Offline
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Posts: 4757
wow. I am both stunned and surprised at these developments. I second Max's thoughts of course

But I find it difficult to believe any regular contributor has achieved these results by malice. We see so much good will here, it simply does not square. I trust the result will be persuasion to more care, whoever is involved now, and in the future.

#53901 - 01/27/02 03:30 PM
wwh Offline
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