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#49435 12/06/01 02:44 AM
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Grrrrr

You all have heard of the stales passion for quiz nights - well you have now.

A couple of weeks ago our team were relegated to third place on a count back after we tied for second. One question we got wrong (even with a choice of four answers) was what do arctophiles collect? If we'd known the answer we'd have got second place.

Well, bugger me, went to another quiz night last night and there was the same bloody question - but without the benefit of multiple choice answers!! Do you think I could remember the answer - no way!! Even though we won the night, the glory of the prize (a packet of M&M's - well it was only a little quiz night!!) was dulled by not being able to remember the goods on arctophiles.

For the record, for once and for all, for now and for ever, stales hereby states he will always remember that arctophiles collect teddy bears.

Now I want to know why - any helpers?

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Why do people collect teddy bears? Beats me.


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Possibly because they are easier to control and cheaper to feed than the real thing?

I heard on the radio the other night, advice to tourists to US National Parks on how to deal with the danger of bears:

"People walking in the woods should wear something that will warn the bears that you are coming, without startling them: for instance, little bells. A pepper spray should also be carriedincase of close encounters.
You should learn to distinguish between the droppings of black bears and Grizzly bears. TYhis is not difficult; Balck bear droppings are small, black and contain fruit, berries and occasinally squirrel fur: Grizzly droppings contain little bells and smell of pepper"


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Possibly because they are easier to control and cheaper to feed than the real thing?

I heard on the radio the other night, advice to tourists to US National Parks on how to deal with the danger of bears:

"People walking in the woods should wear something that will warn the bears that you are coming, without startling them: for instance, little bells. A pepper spray should also be carried in case of close encounters.
You should also learn to distinguish between the droppings of black bears and Grizzly bears. This is not difficult; Black bear droppings are small and contain fruit, berries and occasionally squirrel fur: Grizzly droppings contain little bells and smell of pepper"


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Arcturus


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Jackie's correct here, I think.

What I'd like to know is, to what extent did children play with stuffed bears before the Teddy Bear named after Theodore Roosevelt, our 26th prez? Were stuffed bears part of the children's panoply of toys prior to T.R.Bear?


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Arcturus (...). Astr. Also 4 arthurus, arturis; arture, ariture, arctour. [L. arctrus a Gr. ..., f. ... the Bear + ...
guardian, ward (from its situation at the tail of the Bear); the forms arture, etc. were from Fr.] The brightest star in the constellation Bootes; formerly, also, the whole constellation, and sometimes the Great Bear itself. (OED
http://www.geocities.com/~dubricius/arthur.html about name "Arthur" and relationship to Arcturus


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http://www.arts.unimelb.edu.au/amu/ucr/student/1997/chiba/tbh.htm

This link gives you a potted history, in alternative versions. I incline to the Stieff version, as original Stieff bears are the most collectable of them all, some fetching thousands of pounds, sterling.


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Jackie's correct here

Yes, she is, if not very educational.

The root arcto means bear, not northern region. See http://www.bartleby.com/61/11/A0411100.html and http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE437.html.

The northern region seems to have gotten its name from Ursa Major and possibly from the fact that there were bears in the north.


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to what extent did children play with stuffed bears before the Teddy Bear named after Theodore Roosevelt

apparently there had been earlier toy bears:
http://www.westorange.k12.nj.us/Roosevelt/Teddy Bear.htm: after this famous cartoon appeared in the papers, a shopkeeper, Morris Michtom from Brooklyn, NY, took two stuffed toy bears which his wife had made and put them in his shop window purely as a window display. To make them even more attractive,, Mr. Michtom asked for permission from President Theodore Roosevelt to call these toy bears "Teddy's bears". He was soon swamped with orders from customers who wanted to purchase their own "teddy bears." Michtom's store eventually became the Ideal Novelty and Toy Company (today still known as the Ideal Toy Company). (IMHO, Gilbert created the term "pooh-bah" to echo a toddler's lisping name for his stuffed bear)

but the teddy bear became an overwhelming craze:
http://www.ibiblio.org/stayfree/archives/13/teddy.html: By 1905 mass-produced Teddy Bears were a full-blown craze. ... The fad persisted for three years. And worried people. A priest claimed that bearmania among little girls, who had all but abandoned dolls, destroyed the very instincts of motherhood, threatening the extinction of the species.




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