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#48082 - 12/14/01 09:18 AM tocologic
emanuela Offline

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.parte da medicina que se ocupa da gravidez, parto e puerpério; obstétrico, tocológico
This is not Italian, but Spanish. Anyway, it means
part of medicine related to the time before, during and after giving birth.

#48083 - 12/15/01 02:06 PM Re: tocologic
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Actually®, it's Portuguese. But Spanish is close enough (and your translation is excellent, emanuela!)

#48084 - 12/15/01 03:03 PM Re: tocologic
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Actually, to tease WW, I was just using root in words Flatlander supplied. My dictionary gives as definition of tocology: n.< Gr tokos, childbirth < tiktein, to bear + LOGY OBSTETRICS I just changed it to adjective.

#48085 - 12/17/01 04:09 AM Re: tocologic
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Dear wwh:

And to crossthread back a ways to mentor/mentee:

So, in the field of tocology, there's the tocologist (the doctor deliverer) and that would make either the mother or babe the tolocologee?

Still think cardiotocograph and cadiotocogram are two great words--can't believe they didn't register on the paper in my brain when I first read through Doc Comfort's first long post. Must have been having an ADD moment...

Best regards,

#48086 - 12/18/01 04:18 PM Re: tocologic
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Dear WW: one more word from root "toco""

Abstract: At least a third of the women giving birth in the United States
received intravenous oxytocin for the induction and augmentation of labor.
The problem of inactive or ineffective labor remains a major challenge for
birth attendants, midwives, and physicians who practice obstetrics. Before
the discovery of oxytocin, traditional approaches to augmentation ranged
from magical and folk interventions to extensive bloodletting. Despite its
wide use the effectiveness of oxytocin augmentation has not been well
studied, and current research raises new questions about its effect on the

#48087 - 12/18/01 06:18 PM oxytocin
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Dear Dr. Bill,
Many years ago, my ex-husband and I had a clinic in very rural Mexico. It was a four hour ride on washboard roads to the nearest paved road. We did have access to a short-band radio to call for a small plane in extreme emergencies, unless it was raining and the canyon was full of water rushing at a pace to carry boulders, cars, animals, etc. On this note:

It was a dark and stormy morning when Juanita came to the clinic to deliver her sixth child. We had no provisions for performing c-sections and so she labored unproductively for twelve hours. The canyon roared outside our window. No chance of crossing the torrent, even if a plane could land in the caliche mud. The landing strip was on the other side of the canyon. Juanita never cried out in pain but I could measure her contractions by her clicking fingernails. We finally started a pitocin drip. We monitored her vitals every 15 minutes all through the night. Her cervix had been scarred so badly that it would no longer dilate. Finally, my husband manually dilated her and Esperanza was born nearly 24 hours after Juanita arrived at the clinic. Soon after, the rain ceased. Juanita had her tubes tied the next month.

#48088 - 12/18/01 07:51 PM Re: oxytocin
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Dear consuelo: I have heard many sad stories about the long hard cervix. Glad your involvement had a happy ending.

Into my erratic memory popped the word "alpha tocopherol" = Vitamin E Couldn't figure out why. So I looked it up:
itamin E was the fifth vitamin discovered when researchers found that a dietary
deficiency in laboratory rats produced fetal death in pregnant females. The name
"tocopherol" was derived from the Greek words for childbirth (tos), to bring forth
(phero), and the chemical designation for an alcohol (ol). Vitamin E acts as a
co-enzyme in cellular membranes and serves as a scavenger for free radicals that
are destructive to the membrane and internal cellular components. Natural sources of
vitamin E are vegetable oils, sunflower seeds, almonds, and peanuts.

#48089 - 12/19/01 02:43 PM Re: tocologic
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good grief! this has the potential to be worse than a food thread!
and my contributions could only be my own personal experiences with unproductive labor and the use of oxytocin .

gossip i have heard is from the word god sib-- where sib had the meaning of kinsman.. so a gossip was the god mother (or father) -- who might have attended a birth as( or to assist) a midwife, and would later talk about it.. i don't know if i want to gossip about what i know about oxytocin.

my other obsession

#48090 - 12/19/01 03:42 PM Re: tocologic
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Dear of troy: Quite a while ago I encountered the etymology of "gossip" being from the custom of baptizing all the new infants in a community in early England at the same time, which made them "God's sibs". So in later life they would know each other and be neighbors, and naturally indulge in spreading rumors, etc.

Our word "gossip" reflects this through its etymology: gossip from the late
Old English godsibbe, godparent or god-kin. Apart from the application of
"godparent" as a sponsor in the faith of a child, it's not difficult to imagine the
possibility of damage resulting from whispered rumors by family members or
neighbors. Perhaps Europe and the Americas no longer whip or dunk, put an
offender in stocks, or perform some variation of The Scarlet Letter, however in
many parts of the world ...these and much more severe punishments exist. The
recent report from Amnesty International which remarked on the deaths of over
1600 Pakistani women since 1990 from kitchen fires is a sad example of this.
Gossip is an exercise of power.

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