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#45896 10/27/01 11:58 PM
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As a jest, we had a thread about "are radishes rootish?" We used to have a Hereford bull that loved huge turnips. And Brussels sprouts. Turnips used to be big deal as cattle feed in UK, may still be. Part of the old crop rotation.


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Ta, joesy-woesy. You commented, inter alia Violation or ravishing of a woman. Also, in mod. usage, sexual assault upon a man.

I remember there was a rape case in New Zealand a few years ago where three women were accused of raping a man. Or sexual assault, anyway. It was revenge - the guy had been accused of raping someone but had been found not guilty, presumably on some technicality. I can't remember the outcome of the second court case, but the attack seemed pretty vicious at the time!



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vegitable rape is a green leaved plant with small edible buds-- it sort of looks like an anorexic broccoli, to which it is related, as are turnips, cabbages, and brussel sprouts. all of them are crucifer plants.. the leaves grow in pairs, on opposite sides of the stem, and a set of 2 (4 leaves) will form a cross or + pattern. (in NY is often called broccoli rabe-- its italian name.)

and since you live a more country life style than i do, do you still call garlic ramp? or do you jackie? it is a word i have only encountered in reading. i have never met any one who used it.

(and primarily grown up in canada, there is a food crop called rape seed, the plant is inedable, the yeilds canola oil. )

Not a food thread-- i want to know what word/s are used where for some items.. (yeah, i know the item are food.) but this thread was vering to hurt feelings.. and it was partly my fault.



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dear of troy: you taught me a new word. Dictionary says ramp is a wild leek. When I worked in foundry the molders used to bring me patterns to mend. Their breath was rampantly malodorous of home-made wine,garlic, and caries. (;Yeah, I know that's a different ramp.)


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linking food, words, and my interest in Chicago history:
The name "Chicago" is the local indian word for a plant variously translated as "wild onion" or "wild garlic", the latter being (I believe) more precise.

(So technically we are not "The Windy City", but rather either "The City of Bad Breath" or "The Stinky City". )


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Dr. bill, or any one who is not a hobbled as i am on weekend with AOL, and a slow connections, perhaps you could look up ramp on line. it seem to have a short trail back to an IE root, and could like Gen, be one of those interesting words we have stumbled across here.

and WW-- check out Holiday word thread, and tell us what kind of turnips you have.. yellow, or white.. small or large.


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Dear Keiva: You have been listening to too many local boosters. I read a book by an expert on Indian lore, who said "Chicago" meant "Place of Skunks". And to take the curse off that, I have many pleasant memories of Chicago. In WWII Chicago had recreation facilities for us dogfaces that few other cities did.


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I have many pleasant memories of Chicago. In WWII Chicago had recreation facilities for us dogfaces that few other cities did.

Now, was that a daytime tour of the meat packing houses and a nighttime tour of the cathouses (or catteries to cross-thread just a tad), Dr Bill? And were you a sought-after or a sort-of patron?



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dear dr. bill: there's an expert for everything! My source:
"The name Chicago is derived from the local Indian word Chicagoua for the native garlic plant (not onion) Allium tricoccum." Copyrighted paper by John F. Swenson (adapting prior paper), published in Early Chicago, Danckers & Meredith (2000), p. 377 ff. See penultimate entry at:
http://www.northbranchrestoration.org/art0199b.htm




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