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#44340 10/16/01 01:32 PM
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well, pam, maybe, if you regularly connected with this board.. and didn't just come by to drop off your ad, the response might have been different. I certain felt you have no real interest in the board and posting, or how we interact, you just saw AWAD as a vehicle for free advertizement. (by the way, AWAD does take paid ads of this type in the news letter... )

you are not the first, and the comments you garnered, are pretty mild. we are not a group to do mad flaming.. you do have your email adress in you profile, and if we really were a hostile group, you would have felt our hostility is a much more tangelable way than a few mildly worded repremand.

and then, after a mild, but firmly negitive responce, you come back to complain! i guess we are supposed to be happy you used us? and we shouldn't complain about it? really-- the words i can think to describe you are not ones i want to use. -- but RAPIST come to mind as being close.




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gbear,
there's really nothing for me to add, but since you did address a couple of questions to me I'll answer those:

1) If you DID live in Atlanta, would you still have viewed my announcement as a negative thing?

in a word, yes (in as much as it was a solicitation)

2) Why did... you bother to open a posting entitled "Atlanta Words courses?"

I was, in a word, curious (and not expecting a solicitation)

and you go on to ask us:
1) A title for the posting that would have more clearly let you know upfront that the information therein
would be useless to non-Atlanta people like yourselves?

WARNING! ATLANTA SPAM ALERT

2) A better medium for letting Atlanta people know of this "Atlanta Words courses" opportunity?

to quote an infamous (albeit fictional) denizen of Atlanta: frankly my dear, I don't give a damn

EDIT: that last was unnecessarily flippant. the fact of the matter is that AWAD (and this board) is a *totally free* public service provided by Anu Garg. if I were he and provided such a service (and I do), I would feel slighted and, well, used if someone started dropping in solicitations for profit.


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IMHO:
C'mon, guys and gals, lighten up! S'right, I can understand why you were offended, tho I wasn't (de gustibus, you know).

But offense or not, words like 'rapist" strikes me as overkill, by a wide margin. Heck, if one were to be thin-skinned about this one might take offense at the discussion of Faldage's poetry book. G'bear's new to the board; cut her some slack, huh? It's fine to be firm on the point, but firmness with understanding, to teach, not to excoriate.

JMH and uninformed O.


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This isn't directed just to you, tsuwm, but to all of you who jumped on this lady.

This is far beneath us to treat a new person thusly. There is no way she could have known that there's an unwritten "encouragement" not to engage in advertising here. Just reading her post about this course, I feel it's obvious she wanted to give people the opportunity to go to this class if they were fortunate enough to live in the Atlanta area. It did not smack of commercialism or spam any more that the post I made about getting totally free access to the online OED if you belonged to a certain book club. And I was gently chastised for that, if I remember correctly, and I've been here a long time.

On behalf of all those AWAD folks who treat new folks as guests, I extend my hand to goldibear: we're sorry you were treated so shabbily. While we can't stop you from going, we can assure you that your mistreatment was a momentary aberration in the otherwise kind and gentle mileau (EDIT: Oh my God, did I really misspell milieu???) we are fostering here.

I'm not sorry to be blunt when people have been less than gracious. I hope we learn from this mistake.

TEd



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What a coincidence, Jim. I got gas the last time I was in Chicago. The pizza, perhaps???





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Note from TEd to TEd:

Read the whole thread before you comment! Sorry CK!



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Has early demnitia set into my mind? What has happened to the edit-or-explanation I distinctly recall making to my October 14 post above?


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>'m not sorry to be blunt when people have been less than gracious. I hope we learn from this mistake.

and I have to say that as a webmaster myself I wouldn't change a word that I've posted (well, with the possible exception of the GwtW quote 8). although I love to get feedback (who doesn't?), I won't even put up a guestbook because there's always someone who'll try to take advantage.
furthermoreoverandinthesecondplace, gbear has been registered almost from the beginning and this was her(?) second post; so although she may be new, she isn't exactly *new and has had ample time to know what this site is about.


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kevia, i am replying here, (as well as the PM,) to clarify.

goldibear, placed an ad, not in Anu's newsletter, which, she like us, as registered user gets and know that
Anu is looking for ads for the newsletter. The newsletter reaches a wider audience, but of course it wouldn't be Free-- so basicly, goldi is freeloader, taking advantage of this board..

(lets see, taking something that doesn't really belong to them, and using for their own profit? is that legal? and even if it was, it is morally right?)

but, our complaints, were not screaming flames, but rather mild tsks, tsks, about spam.. and goli's reply?

And, for my future benefit, do either of you have any alternate suggestions for:
1) A title for the posting that would have more clearly let you know upfront that the information therein would be useless to non-Atlanta people like yourselves?
2) A better medium for letting Atlanta people know of this "Atlanta Words courses" opportunity?

which sound to me like she plans to place an other ad next semister.. so, when we mildly repremand her, her response is, not "Gee, i am sorry, you're right, i shouldn't just take over this free service to meet my ends." , but, instead we are treated to "Oh, how should i take advantage of you?"
EDITi was wrong to use such strong, graphic language.. so a line has been removed.

first she battered the board with her ad, and now she is assaulting us, and promising to batter us again.. and those of us who object are wrong?


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The severity of goldibear's offense is not relevant to adjudging the temperance of the response.

Edit, answering tsuwm's inquiry two posts below: tsuwm, please note, inter alia, the final paragraph of the post two posts above this one.

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