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I guess I've been investing foolishly...
> If you had bought $1000 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now
> be worth $49.
> If you had bought $1000 worth of Budweiser (the beer, not the
> stock)one year ago, drank all the beer, and traded in the cans for the
> nickel deposit, you would have $79.
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My dear, in which dictionary does it say that buying beer is an investment?  (ribbit)
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But you'd have had a $951 tax writeoff, meaning the Government pays you to make bad stock market decisions.
And if you drink all that Budweiser, it just goes to waist.
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a $951 tax writeoff
Unless you're in a greater than 100% tax bracket you still come out with a loss. With the beer, if you're clever about who you drink it with, you can make some great contacts.
And you can turn contacts into relationships and relationships into results©
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Or... just drink it for the *results.
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With the beer, you can make some great contacts. And you can turn contacts into relationships and relationships into results©
And as an additional benefit: if said the results are finacial, the cost of the beer is tax-deductible.
Faldage, msy I suggest that we consider financial matters when I buy you a beer at Wordpalooza?
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And remember that in Michigan the can is a dime, so you would double your money 
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And if you drink all that Budweiser, it just goes to waist.
I once knew a surly old miser
Who mooched products from Busch and Anhuiser
But the stuff made him sick,
and it rotted his wick,
Now the miser is sadder Budweiser.
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What's that saying? "If you can't be good, be careful, and if you can't be careful, name it after me!"
...and anyway, you don't buy beer, you only rent it...
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Heavens! The ultimate in keybounce! Sorry for mechanical errors. I'm not sure it was even worth posting once !
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...and anyway, you don't buy beer, you only rent it...
And always remember:
We are but the intermediaries between the brewer and the sewer.
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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At the risk of revealing myself as a "beer snob," I assert that the time it took to drink $1000 of Budweiser was wasted time. Now had it been a nice hoppy ale...................
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re: a nice hoppy ale.
Hops-- just the thing i don't like about beer.. now malt liquor, a brew made with out hops or hard cider, they are fine.. i like my coffee strong, and bitter, but not alcohol. (mind you a drop of bitters is okay in a cocktail!) but not hoppy ale.
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FYI :
The reason beer goes through you faster than water?
It doesn't have to stop and change color.
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It doesn't have to stop and change color.
Hmmm. My experience:
.................INPUT.........OUTPUT
Beer..........yellow.........colorless
Water........colorless......yellow
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Too Much Input? 
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Faldage, that's more than I really wanted to know!
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that it were the sort of thing that one already knew.
And if one doesn't drink that much water I thought that one would appreciate being disabused of wow's misinformation.
Well, far be it from me to cast the flashlight of enlightenment into the footprints of ignorance again. All one seems to get is a muddy flashlight.
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All one seems to get is a muddy flashlight.There's Mud Inside? Poor ole feller, how the enquiring mind gets ridiculed, eh?
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There's three kinds of people:
A) Those who make things happen,
2) Those who watch things happen
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Þ) Those who wonder why things happen.
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But my dearest Faldage, do you not make the philosopher's error of assuming that one's personal traits are universal? Philosophers must ultimately find
Their true perfection,
By learning all the foibles of mankind
Though introspection.--Piet Hein
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Well, far be it from me to cast the flashlight of enlightenment into the footprints of ignorance again. All one seems to get is a muddy flashlight.Agreed. 
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the philosopher's error of assuming that one's personal traits are universal
Silly me, and I thought it was purely a matter of biology.
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Thus the cry and hue of wow's and faldage's differing biological viewpoints.
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Ann, is your last name by any chance Heuser?
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wow's and faldage's differing biological viewpoints.
Mebbe she jus din't never drink enuff beer.
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There's three kinds of people:
A) Those who make things happen,
2) Those who watch things happen
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Þ) Those who wonder why things happen.
<There's three kinds of people:
A) Those who make things happen,
2) Those who watch things happen
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Þ) Those who wonder why things happen.>
May I add
4) Those who laugh at things that happen?
I may not always have wise things to add to the often enthralling exchanges, but I must say, that I am getting my RDA of chortles!
Luv, Marigold
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Faldage, I may have been unfair to you. Given that you and wow have differing shades of opinions, which of you two pooh-bahs should I consider the higher authority on this particular subject? I must give that precedence to Faldage, for one simple reason: this board has long recognized that men are more sensitive about biology.
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Can't we have some pees around here?!?!?!
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s'all right, TEd. I shall mind my ap pease and ac cuse. note to mav -- come join us! Let's get all four of us Marx Brothers together!
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In the recent PBS special on evolution, a researcher, who was expecting to find theories and/or at least the depth of discussions to extend beyond "social" interactions, was suprised to document (by eaves-dropping{sp?}) that more than 2/3rds of all discussions are "gossip like" and that the human is more of a *social being than an intellectual one (or some similar extrapolation)...
This reminded me of a previous "documentation" (not related to PBS) that revealed that there are three *kinds of people:
- Those that talk about people
- Those that talk about events
- Those that talk about ideas.
It is impossible (that ought to *stir things up) to be involved in one without referring or understanding the context of the other two, but...
Would it be presumptious to say that this discussion board generally seeks to focus on number three...?[snicker-e]
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Those that count and those that don't count.
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Then where do you fit in..? 
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Can't we have some pees around here?!?!?!
Urine for it now, TEd!
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Re:-Those that talk about people
- Those that talk about events
- Those that talk about ideas.
i heard it as people with:
Small minds talk about people.
mediocre minds talk about things.
great minds talk about ideas.
no mind at all talk about themselves..
the nuns used use this when ever any one was showing off -- especially after christmas, when many of us had few things to show off..
i find i alternate between being mindless, and great.. and mea culpa, but mindless wins all to often! but talking about food wins out over self and others. in the magnatude of sins, food is not so bad.
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I giggle, Jackie ROTFLHHO, we're such a happy bunch. Some . some , some some  . Some are  ,  , or , but mostly we all get along. Glad you have joined us Marigold. Welcome. Benvenidos. Which category would you try to fit me in with this then, Musick?I have many chambers in my mind. Sometimes I enjoy a good snicker from the interplay of WORDS
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I prefer mounds myself.
Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.
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Now you're reaching.......
There I go, stooping to the bad boys' level AGAIN-wail!
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Oh, Ted, you are SO bad! musick, nuts feel...oh, never mind! And consuelo, no, no, it is you and I who should be reaching for...Hey, you wanna have a contest? Last one there is a rotten egg!
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Jackie! Hey folks! Jackie's bee-ing funny! I think Kalamazoo is closer than Luivul, don't you?
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Closer to what, my dear? Or should I say to whom?
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Scrilly is the word you say to the bees that lets them know that you are a friend and not to sting you. This is from a poem by Max Ellison and is often performed by Terry Wooten at Stone Circle and in schools all over the US. WARNING:SPORTS RELATED POETRYScrilly is not found at this site. Don't ask me why Terry chose three sports-related poems from the tons of wonderful poems he's written. I guess there's just no guessing what poets might do http://hometown.aol.com/stonecir/myhomepage/poetry.html
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And what's wrong with Marathons, I'd like to know . Bingley
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Which marathon might you be refering to? Is that a candy bar? Is it CHOCOLATE ? Gimme some!
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In my chocolate-filled youth there was a chocolate bar called a Marathon, which later changed its name for some unfathomable reason to Snicker.
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a chocolate bar called a Marathon Ah, yes, the gas station. Jo posted about that a long time ago. my chocolate-filled youth Was your youth chocolate- creme-filled, Bingley? Okay, okay, I need more sleep...
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Hmm. Sounds like Venus envy.
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Venus envy (Notice the color!) Augh! Ted, you are wonderful! Mars bars are okay, but if a Venus were chocolate-creme-filled, I'd eat it.
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Venus envy
Sometimes you feel like a nut.
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this, from Jackie?!
mav, it seems you no longer need to use asterisks, as you did in "brick sh*thouse".
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ROTFLM "RS" OFF
T(ears)R(unning)D(own)M(y)C(heeks) GASP!!
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no longer need to use asterisks, as you did in "brick sh*thouse". Excuse me--I did not use any bad words, asterisk or no asterisk. ("rs"terisk to you, maybe, Consuelo? )
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ROTFLM "RS" OFF
T(ears)R(unning)D(own)M(y)C(heeks)
Let us pause to consider, in the context of "RS", the anatomical improbability of tears running down "C(heeks)".
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I KNEW I should have said mejillas(spanish for cheeks)! Now, scrilly!!! BEEHAVE Some people want discussions about words 
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From another thread: Bingley, you come back here and look what you started with your have no rs post!Bingley, you come back here and look what you started with your have no Mars post!
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??!! (exeunt, stage left)
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every notice how the men tire, just as you're beginning to hit your stride? the fun just gets going and then the men are gone..
good thing there are plenty more where he came from.. who's up next?
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Helen, please note that my word was "exeunt", and not "exit"; more than one departing, together. And you would surely be diappointed had I returned before a (ahem) suitable interval had passed. I shall now excuse myself once again.
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In reply to:
Bingley, you come back here and look what you started with your have no Mars post!
I am utterly bewildered. I never mentioned Mars. All I said was that in my younger years I ate a lot of chocolate, and particularly a bar called a Marathon, which has since been renamed. This seems to have launched a discussion of such depravity that my computer is steaming and my colleagues are commenting on my glowing cheeks. [wide-eyed innocence emoticon]
Incidentally, trying to get the discussion back to words, what is the difference if any between a co-worker and a colleague?
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my glowing cheeks. Hope the combustion temperature of your chair material's pretty high, then...
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Now if you had just said coworker I could have said "a coworker orks cows", but no.
I would have to say that a colleague is in a more professionally intimate relationship with one than is a co-worker. I also taste (Hi, xara) more of a professional (as in learnéd professional) overtone to colleague. Also, co-worker has more of a feeling of spatial proximity. Someone who works in the next cubicle would be a co-worker regardless of any direct connection in a business sense beyond working for the same employer; a colleague might work in a completely separate building but would be working on the same things, the same project and at an organizational level matching one's own.
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While in the wordplay you did frisk You chose not your * Now if with candy you're uncouth, Toss in your pool a Baby Ruth You'll see the swimmers flee with screams, While you laugh and lick your chocolate cremes. 
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While in the wordplay you did frisk
You chose not your *
Now if with candy you're uncouth,
Toss in your pool a Baby Ruth
You'll see the swimmers flee with screams,
While you laugh and lick your chocolate cremes.
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Yes Mister Faldage I fear it's true,
All you said and pretension too.
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The reason beer goes through you faster than water?
It doesn't have to stop and change color.
The above is a very, very, very old JOKE!
Sheeesh! (Musing to self : Age is a funny thing, either you're ignored or you're taken too seriously!)
There's another joke about "Golden Years" (old age) and the color .... never mind, better not run the risk of someone's getting serious and telling me to just drink more water.
Aside to non-US'ns :
There are two candy bars : both made of coconut and covered with chocolate. They come in a package, each package containing two pieces of the candy.
"Mounds" are just that; two pieces of chocolate covered coconut.
"Almond Joy" is like a "Mounds" but has two almonds on each of the two sections.
The candies are made by the same company and are advertised in commercials together with the jingle/slogan :
"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't."
You can figure that out, I'm sure.
Sorry to be so late posting but have just found a few spare moments and am trying to catch up!
Aloha to all.
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> If you had bought $1000 worth of Budweiser (the beer, not the stock)one year ago, drank all the beer, and traded in the cans for the nickel deposit, you would have $79
Sadly, you would have not have done so well with the Budweiser in the UK because I am not aware that it is possible to get any money back with the cans.
We used to get money back when we returned bottles of "pop" (see previous discussion for terminology of pop/soda/assorted fizzy drinks) but I can't recall being given money back on cans of beer - we can take them for recycling but no cash changes hands.
Incidently, I have always pronounced it Budveiser which caused astonishement to a young waiter in the USA - am I alone in this (maybe I am)? I also baffled him when asking if I wanted "Swiss cheese" by asking precisely which kind of Swiss cheese he was referring to (Emmental, Gruyere, Raclette ... list continued at [url]http://www.switzerland-cheese.com/index_1.htm/url].
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The above is a very, very, very old JOKE!
And an outside one, at that.
As an aside: Yellow is easier to see but harder to read; white is easier to read but harder to see.
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re:am I alone in this (maybe I am)? I also baffled him when asking if I wanted "Swiss cheese" by asking precisely which kind of Swiss cheese he was referring to (Emmental, Gruyere, Raclette ...
Swiss cheese is the cheese with the holes in it.. gruyere is always processed, shaped into wedges, wrapped in tin foil, and sold in little (3 to 4 inch) wheels. Swiss Knight is the most common brand. you eat it as snack with crackers. raclette is read about in recipes, its supposed to be used for fondue. but no one really make fondue. you eat it at ski lodge, love it, and some one buys you a fondue pot as a result. the fondue pot collects dust, and is eventually sold at a garage sale, to some one who has just come back from a ski trip, where they had fondue at the lodge.
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no one really make fondue. you eat it at ski lodge, love it, and some one buys you a fondue pot as a result. the fondue pot collects dust, and is eventually sold at a garage sale, to some one who has just come back from a ski trip, where they had fondue at the lodge.
Mebbe we should start using them to store fruit cake in. Duas aves uno calculo caede
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Of Troy, I must disagree with you on availibility of natural Gruyère in the US. I currently have a small chunk in my refri. I bought it at my grocer's deli section and it is imported from Switzerland, available at a paltry $8.29 lb. This is why it's a small chunk.
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[beware: food related - not for the faint hearted]>I currently have a small chunk in my refri. I bought it at my grocer's deli section and it is imported from Switzerland, available at a paltry $8.29 lb. This is why it's a small chunk. I just looked up Gruyère at a local supermarket site. It costs £9.59/KG which according to my rough calculations costs around the same. Maybe we just expect to pay more for food , good mature Cheddar costs around £7/KG but it looks like mild "value" Cheddar, probably coloured and definitely tasteless costs around £2.50/KG.I was going to say that under EU legislation we wouldn't be allowed to call cheese "Swiss" if it wasn't from Switzerland but then Switzerland isn't in the EU ... By the same rule "Mozzarella" is always from Italy but "Cheddar" seems to be more generic with Canadian cheddar on sale alongside English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish. Raclette isn't used for fondue. In the alps, you get a heating thingy with a wedge of Raclette, some bread and potatoes. As the Raclette heats up it melts and you skim off the melted bit to add to your potatoes. http://www.stud.unisg.ch/~mboesch/swiss-special/raclette.html Fondue is usually made with Gruyère and/or Emmental, white wine & kirsch in my experience, mind you, I have just looked up some sites for fondue recipes and I see the problem - some of the inventions I came across are quite revolting. PS Faldage, I don't like fruit cake either. I do remember a friend from the US eyeing our Christmas cake suspiciously saying "do you really eat it?"
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white wine & kirsch...
Absinthe.
Absinthe.
(Absinthe makes the YART grow fondue)
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US'ns treat fruitcake as a running joke. There is at least one comedian who has a gag about there being only one fruitcake in existence; it keeps getting sent from person to person as a Christmas present. Considering its ubiquity I would have to believe that there is a time machine involved, too.
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I admit it. I like fruit cake ... but just one brand, made in Corsicana Texas. It can be found at : http://www.collinstreetbakery.com/It's more fruit than cake and if you ask them the nice folks will send you the directions for inserting brandy into the cake. (At least they used to, I have the instructions so haven't asked lately.) After the treatment it should be left awhile, so if your taste runs that way, order early, insert brandy and let it soak in for a week or two. How could I resist a fruitcake made by a company that has two men named McNutt as officers? One a year is enough, though, so resist any temptation to forward unwanted fruitcakes. Thank you very much!
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(Absinthe makes the YART grow fondue)
You really *are a looney, aren't you?
I had to look up "absinthe" ~ how intriguing that Atomica claims it is "now prohibited in many countries because of its toxicity". Do folks really drink the stuff? It sounds horrid.
I liked the word "pinnatifid", used to describe the feather-like structure of the "silvery silky leaves and numerous nodding flower heads" of the amarinthus plant. Of course, "pinnatifid" was helpfully defined by atomica as
"having a pinnate structure". As an aside, what's the term for 'using a word or root thereof in its own definition'? Seems to me like cheating and I find it annoying, unless accompanied by a subdefinition. Is "pinnate" a common word? I can't recall having heard it before, but it seems a lovely, useful little thing.
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Well i *did LIU, acksherly, which is why i added the "feather-like" qualifier to the definition I quoted, lest anyone *else not know the word. What I was trying to ask in my own inimatatibly©* fumbling way wasn't "what does 'pinnate' mean" but rather "does everyone on the planet know this word except for me?". But thanks for the link an' the purty pitchers * wasn't that the word that of troy coined, which hyla commented on?
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ENTRY: pet-
DEFINITION: Also pet- (oldest form *pet1-). To rush, fly. Variant *pte1-, contracted to *pt-.
Derivatives include feather, compete, perpetual, ptomaine, symptom, and hippopotamus
I went to bartlbys site, read the definition, and clicked on the green pet in etimology and lo! there appeared the hippopotomus!
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I wouldn't worry about copyright violation on this one, ghost.
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>"what does 'pinnate' mean" but rather "does everyone on the planet know this word except for me?"
Possibly, depends if you are into gardening or not. The short-hand is "grows like a pine tree", ie. spindly leaves sticking out not like a broad leaved deciduous tree.
Are they being mean again? I'll give those boys a good "seeing to".
By the way, is Maverick still spaced out on absinthe, I believe it did wonders for Van Gough!
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The short-hand is "grows like a pine tree"
But it really means, looks like a feather.
There isn't a connection between pine and feather, is there? ICLIU
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from the definition given already:
Resembling a feather; having parts or branches arranged on each side of a common axis: a polyp with a pinnate form; pinnate leaves.
Perhaps pine (not pine cone, pine tree) comes from pinnate, because the leaves branch out from the branch like a feather, the opposite would be like an oak tree, where the branches keep dividing.
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Perhaps pine (not pine cone, pine tree) comes from pinnate, because the leaves branch out from the branch like a feather'Parently not: http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE381.htmlRelatives include fat, pituitary and Irish (!!!)
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the leaves branch out from the branch like a featherThe illustration at Faldage's link, http://www.bartleby.com/61/74/P0317400.htmlshows a stalk with nine little green blobs attached, four on each side and one at the tip. The blobs are leaf lets, not leaves; "leaf" is the word for the entire structure, stalk plus leaflets. Hence the leaf -- the entirety -- has a feather-like structure (a central rib about which numerous appendages are symmetrical). That particular picture appears to be a locust leaf. If you examine one up-close-and-in-person, there's a small knob where stem joins branch, but no such knob where leaflet joins stem. I assume (but do not know) that that is the technical distinction between leaf and leaflet.
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My apologies for continueing this food thread. To Faldage and any other doubters. My wife being of Swiss descent we use our fondue pot quite often, have our own favourite recipe (including Gruyere, Emental, Vacherin, dry white wine, garlic, kirsch, and cornflour. I have never felt the need for nutmeg in it). Of course you can use the pot for the other fondues (Chinese, Bourgignon, chocolate). We often have raclette, though using small slices rather than the far more dramatic machine which melts the top slice off the whole round. My wife makes an excellent cheese tart as well.
This morning we received the photos of our latest holiday at the chalet and have them on CD, so I can send any one who is interested photos of: a fondue on the balcony, traditional cheese making, and Gruyere village and castle which is a favourite trip of ours. PM me with your real e-mail if really want to see.
Now the word payoff: My dictionary defines fondue as a dish of melted cheese, from French, related to fuse=melt with intense heat. So why are Chinese (or Mongolian) fondue (mushroom bouillon to cook wafer thin slices of meat) and Fondue Bourgignon (boiling oil for meat cubes) also known as fondue? Because the (cheese) fondue pot or heating mechanism got reused or what?
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There's an old joke which, with great care, I will now try and share with you... Q: Why is <a certain male body fluid> white and <another Body fluid> yellow? A: So you can tell if you're coming or going. I'm outa here The former board member known as stales
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ROTFLMAO -- I think I just busted a rib!
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RE: My dictionary defines fondue as a dish of melted cheese, from French, related to fuse=melt with intense heat. So why are Chinese (or Mongolian) fondue (mushroom bouillon to cook wafer thin slices of meat) and Fondue Bourgignon (boiling oil for meat cubes) also known as fondue? Because the (cheese) fondue pot or heating mechanism got reused or what?
Really? i have seen/been at parties that use fondue pots for melting chocolate for dipping (and it doesn't work well, the heat is usually to hot for the chocolate) but a Mongolian hot pot is not a fondue.. and i have never seen fondue pots used for that. i would be afraid to use my fondue pot yes, i still have one from years past for heating oil. the stand is ok, but not for heating oil... it just not sturdy/stable enough. and by the time your are drunk enought to think a fondue is a good idea, you are way to drunk to be messing about with boiling oil!
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Mongolian hot pot is not a fondue..
but is known as fondue chinoise in French, and I think Chinese Fondue in UK English. (Our family tends to use the French phrase because we eat it in Switzerland - I have never seen the thinly sliced meat in UK). Proper chocolate Fondues have a gentler heat source like a night light rather than a burner. Fondue Bourgignon uses a metal pot to hold the oil but on the same wide stable base we use for heating cheese. And we usually get pleasently merry during and after the fondue, rather than before.
Anyway, I like fondues because it is difficult for my wife to see how much I am eating.
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