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#42807 09/26/01 12:36 PM
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I'm not altogether pleased with the Caesar dressing recipe I normally use

Keeping it within the statistical variance of the drift of this thread, have you tried ketchup?


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I remember having read that Caesar's troops complained during the campaigns about having to eat too much meat, and not enough vegetables. I wonder what kind of salad Caesar offered them, and what besides olive oil for dressing.


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Bill, I doubt very much that Caesar's troops ate salad. So far as I can ascertain, salads were invented in the middle ages as something to fill your gut and keep off the pangs of starvation whilst fasting; they were not viewed as providing any significant nourishment, hence OK to eat on a fast. This is mentioned in the Decameron, I believe (going from memory) in the story about Alibech & Rustico. Salads then consisted of field greens dressed with salt (only), which is where the word "salad" comes from.

I believe the Caesar salad was named for the proprietor of a New York restaurant or night club, but don't know who off hand. Helen - can you help here?


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I had some vague recollection that Caesar salads were reputed to be of Mexican origin. The following link, which appears to be a discussion of words on a food site (imagine!), provides details.

http://www.uta.fi/FAST/US8/SPEC/foodfolk.html


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Dear BYB: And do you mean to tell me that Caesar's troops did not have table cloths, napkins, plates, and silverware including salad forks? Of course the passage I referred to said only that they wanted vegetables, and I wondered what kinds would have been available to them on campaign.


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I don't know of any info. from Roman times about what rations were handed out to troops, although I dare say there are some experts who do. We know that Caesar's troops were usually on the move, so my assumption is that they did what armies usually did then and for the next 1800+ years: live off the land. So I would suppose that in Belgia, they enjoyed endives (or the ancient equivalent), cabbage in Germania (maybe sauercrautum ?). After they invaded Britannia, perhaps they used the native crops and plants to create bufo in foramine and Ricardellus maculosus?


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My Latin is nothing compared to my Spanish, and yet why am I sure that these dishes are the near famous figgy pudding and the dreaded spotted dick?


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As a hyla, I can spot a ranid relative regardless of language: that bufo is a toad-in-a-hole.


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Well, at least I was half right. Story of my life.


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Hmmm - I could've sworn I tapped out a reply to this post today - but it's not present (well , at least I can't see it - apologies if I've done this twice then...)

In keeping with the original request:

pavlova
wellington boots
mackintosh
furphy (see last week's discussion)
macadamia nuts
macadam (oldsters' word used in Oz for a tar sealed / bitumised road. Attributed to Sir John MacAdam - the same guy the nuts are named after)

stales



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