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#38796 08/19/01 04:31 PM
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I believe Bill was querying that question of a particular obscure initialism that Helen had utilized, and now you've taken it out of convex for your own nefarious dolphins.
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Dear musick: I used to refer to of troy by alluding to the Marlowe quotation. But when it comes to beauty, I doubt that it is possible to give a workable set of rules for identifying it.


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We all know beauty when we see it, but could argue endlessly about which of two beauties was the greater.It is mildly interesting that immature persons are often more attractive than they are when they become mature. And a bit baffling that beauty gives such power to the possessor.


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...when it comes to beauty, I doubt that it is possible to give a workable set of rules for identifying it

But some people are giving it the ol' college try.

http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/humanface/articles/mask.html


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Interesting article, Sparteye. Unfortunately, it manages to give an important quality of irrational numbers without really explaining what they are (they are numbers that cannot be expressed as the ratio of two integers) and gives an almost irrelevant quality (its approximate value) of the golden ratio without saying anything important about why it might be considered beautiful.

Try this for a more in depth view of the golden ratio:

http://www.mcn.net/~jimloy/golden.html

In short the golden ratio is the ratio between the sides of a golden rectangle and a golden rectangle is one which, when you remove a square from it, the remaining rectangle has the same ratio between its sides as the original rectangle.


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As football seeks beauty from its "execution"?

That was simply using the term in real life. The article Sparteye linked to was attempting to define the beauty of the golden ratio. I find nothing particularly obvious about the beauty of the number .618... but the notion that it is indicative of a ratio that refers back on itself starts to get somewhere.

And football can be very beautiful in slo-mo with the annoying chatter of the commentators replaced by what we laughingly refer to as serious music.


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