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#37886 - 08/07/01 02:46 PM Yahoo Chat
Sparteye Offline

Registered: 01/05/01
Posts: 1773
In the hopes of catching another international turnout:

We have scheduled a chat in the Yahoo AWADchat room for Friday, August 10 @ 10 PM (EDT)... making that -- what -- noon on Saturday, the 12th of October, or something, on the other side of the planet. Hope you all can make it.

#37887 - 08/08/01 09:45 AM Re: Yahoo Chat
Bean Offline
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Registered: 01/18/01
Posts: 1156
I know we can all probably do the math to EDT if we try (or use one of those web time-converters), but how about posting the chat time in GMT? That way it should be easier for everyone to work out the time. Espeically for people in places where there is no daylight saving time (like Saskatchewan, although I don't think there's anyone here from there). Adds another layer of confusion!

#37888 - 08/08/01 11:36 AM Re: Yahoo Chat
Bobyoungbalt Offline

Registered: 11/22/00
Posts: 1289
EDT + 5 = GMT

#37889 - 08/08/01 12:02 PM Re: Yahoo Chat
Bean Offline
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Registered: 01/18/01
Posts: 1156
EDT + 5 = GMT - 3.5 = NDT

Now what I don't understand is why Pine time-stamps my emails at -0230. Should be -0330 if the above is correct. [confused]

#37890 - 08/08/01 11:10 PM Re: Yahoo Chat
Bingley Offline
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Registered: 04/09/00
Posts: 3065
Loc: Jakarta
Indonesia doesn't have daylight saving time for the obvious reason that the length of day and night are pretty constant throughout the year, but why doesn't Saskatchewan?


#37891 - 08/09/01 03:51 AM Daylight Saving
doc_comfort Offline

Registered: 01/18/01
Posts: 618
Loc: Australia
Maybe as it is so far North (demonstrating his lack of geographical knowledge of anywhere North of Brisbane), the daylight hours are so long that shifting them one way or the other (which is what changing the time achieves) does not increase the amount of natural light during normal waking hours.

Having just seen this - http://www.worldtimezone.com/daylight.htm - my theory has changed. It now involves some political/social/agricultural motivations, although I can't help but wonder what benefit is derived from moving the daylight during the Summer. Surely Autumn and Spring are the times ...[/rant]

#37892 - 08/10/01 07:46 AM Saskatchewan
Bean Offline
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Registered: 01/18/01
Posts: 1156
The motive is entirely political. People didn't want the trouble of switching their clocks ahead in April and back again in October. They are (again) talking about changing the rule to go along with the rest of the continent, because businesses who do business internationally find their customers are confused. Let's face it, it is confusing. April to October, they are one hour behind Manitoba, but on the same time as Alberta. October to April, the situation is reversed. It makes it confusing to try and call your friends in Saskatchewan (I used to live here), because you can't always remember if they're going to be asleep/awake/home from work, etc. Of course, if you ask any Saskatchewanian, they will say that the rest of the country's habit of changing clocks twice a year is stupid and silly.

what benefit is derived from moving the daylight during the Summer.

I guess it's not just the summer, but as I said above, April to October - half the year. During the longest days of the summer the sun is up from 5:00 am to about 10:00 pm (Daylight Saving Time). In standard time that is 4:00 am to 9:00 pm. Similarly, in the winter, you only have about eight hours of daylight. I guess we shift back so they'll be centred on noon. In practice, on the shortest days of the year, the sun is up from about 8:00-4:00, depending on your latitude and where in the time zone you live.

Notice that say, Sydney, Australia is only at 30S while St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada is at 47N (and this is among the less-north parts of the country - it gets more drastic as you go more north). The relationship between latitude and daylight hours is non-linear (goes as sine(latitude)) so we get a lot more variation in daylight hours that in Australia.

If you have no idea of the layout of our provinces, try this link and choose "Canada Political": http://atlas.gc.ca/english/quick_maps/index_quickmaps.htm

Aren't you glad you asked?

#37893 - 08/10/01 08:55 AM Re: Saskatchewan
RhubarbCommando Offline

Registered: 08/23/00
Posts: 2204
Aren't you glad you asked?

Well, I'm glad he asked - I found that interesting and informative - many thanks!


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